In general terms, I would like everyone to imagine being at work and having every interaction on video/audio?

 

Private companies should do this, right? One could only assume almost every employee would be much more productive and if they weren't the boss could fire them.

 

Think about this everyone, do you want your every action at work documented with video and audio?

 

Should we do it for teachers, coaches, school administrators? If no, why not?

 

Where do we draw the line?

 

If I was being watched at work, I would have to put an entry for "BGP" on my timesheet!:ohbrother:

If I was being watched at work, I would have to put an entry for "BGP" on my timesheet!:ohbrother:

 

I don't want to get this thread off track but this is a little like the handshake issue. We expect a lot of our coaches, many would argue too much. Additionally, we expect a lot of our police officers too and how much is too much. Just a statement, not a question.

 

Coming back to you pete, I realize it is apples and oranges but it would dramatically change what you do at work (or where you work - or if you would choose to be in a line of work that documented your every move) and it would do the same for the police.

I don't have a stake in the game myself, but I could see somebody complaining, especially if Miranda Rights were not given.

 

Complain away, is likely the response you'd get.

In general terms, I would like everyone to imagine being at work and having every interaction on video/audio?

 

Private companies should do this, right? One could only assume almost every employee would be much more productive and if they weren't the boss could fire them.

 

Think about this everyone, do you want your every action at work documented with video and audio?

 

Should we do it for teachers, coaches, school administrators? If no, why not?

 

Where do we draw the line?

 

For me, if I were working as an attorney, I would lean toward no on audio, because it could lead to sticky situations with attorney-client privilege if they were stolen or somehow compromised (e.g., hacked in a nasty divorce case or big time tort suit). I think that's a bit of a different situation though, because short of someone telling me they plan on abusing a child or someone whose elderly, there aren't lots of actions I can legally take due to the Model Rules of Professional Responsibility.

 

Being in the public sector, a lot of places I work are video recorded, and I don't really think much of it. I understand why it's there and in place. That's maybe a different situation though when you are working what is essentially Legal Aid, many times with indigent clients, some of which have violent tendencies and/or mental problems.

 

I'm fairly certain that in our school's library (at least), that there is video monitoring. There were also cameras throughout the hallways and common areas in my school, as well as in places like the Principal's offices, etc.

 

 

I do feel like there's somewhat of a double standard with the NSA revelations that the government feels that it's acceptable to spy on us and doesn't really give a flip what anyone thinks about it, but might not justify their "own" having the policies implemented onto them as well for the same policy reasons. Post-NSA, I would think that plenty of Americans attitudes have changed as to the nature and extent of the "spying" or "monitoring" issues.

I don't want to get this thread off track but this is a little like the handshake issue. We expect a lot of our coaches, many would argue too much. Additionally, we expect a lot of our police officers too and how much is too much. Just a statement, not a question.

 

Coming back to you pete, I realize it is apples and oranges but it would dramatically change what you do at work (or where you work - or if you would choose to be in a line of work that documented your every move) and it would do the same for the police.

 

But wouldn't it change it in a positive manner? As pete said regarding BGP time at work, if my office did this, it would change my habits, and probably for the better from a company standpoint (i.e. less time on here, more time on work :lol2:).

I don't want to get this thread off track but this is a little like the handshake issue. We expect a lot of our coaches, many would argue too much. Additionally, we expect a lot of our police officers too and how much is too much. Just a statement, not a question.

 

Coming back to you pete, I realize it is apples and oranges but it would dramatically change what you do at work (or where you work - or if you would choose to be in a line of work that documented your every move) and it would do the same for the police.

 

I did not mean to digress, but you bring up a good point. I am expected to be on good behavior at work by being professional and getting my work completed on time. I am given a lot of leeway to do "Internet research", but there is a balance needed...I can't be doing this all day...I am expected to do a job and I am paid well to do it. On the other hand, I do need a break now and then to hit the "What's New" link periodically.

But wouldn't it change it in a positive manner? As pete said regarding BGP time at work, if my office did this, it would change my habits, and probably for the better from a company standpoint (i.e. less time on here, more time on work :lol2:).

 

Maybe, maybe not. You might decide to work for a company that isn't so draconian. Then is your company a winner or a loser?

I did not mean to digress, but you bring up a good point. I am expected to be on good behavior at work by being professional and getting my work completed on time. I am given a lot of leeway to do "Internet research", but there is a balance needed...I can't be doing this all day...I am expected to do a job and I am paid well to do it. On the other hand, I do need a break now and then to hit the "What's New" link periodically.

 

We have the exact same feeling on the issue.

 

However, somehow I feel many people will feel this kind of oversight should apply to police officers but not them.

I don't have a stake in the game myself' date=' but I could see somebody complaining, especially if Miranda Rights were not given.[/quote']

 

I'm fairly certain police do not have to inform you that you are being recorded, at least not in KY.

 

And if you aren't in custody Miranda is not necessary.

I'm fairly certain police do not have to inform you that you are being recorded, at least not in KY.

 

And if you aren't in custody Miranda is not necessary.

 

You need to be more specific on Miranda and custody, that is misleading to the lay person.

Maybe, maybe not. You might decide to work for a company that isn't so draconian. Then is your company a winner or a loser?

 

In the long run, a winner. They'll go out and find someone who is willing to meet their requirements.

 

I'm thinking a more thorough understanding of the law would be a must for officers in this situation. I'm not sure how that equates to less qualified officers. If anything, I'd think officers having a better understanding of the law would make for a more qualified force.

We have the exact same feeling on the issue.

 

However, somehow I feel many people will feel this kind of oversight should apply to police officers but not them.

 

I don't think it is something personal for police officers. I doubt anything I do on the Internet at work will be the subject of a criminal or civil court case (at least I hope not)! At the worst, I'll get fired for wasting time and not doing my job. On the other hand, a police officer has almost constant interaction with others.

In general terms, I would like everyone to imagine being at work and having every interaction on video/audio?

 

Private companies should do this, right? One could only assume almost every employee would be much more productive and if they weren't the boss could fire them.

 

Think about this everyone, do you want your every action at work documented with video and audio?

 

Should we do it for teachers, coaches, school administrators? If no, why not?

 

Where do we draw the line?

 

I understand where you are coming from and how it would be a pain for cops but I guess if I were a cop and a suspect became violent and I had to respond with violence, it would be comforting to know that if some BS police brutality came from the suspect I could simply refer to the recording to show I used appropriate response to the suspect's violence. This is definitely an area that has some good and bad to it.

You need to be more specific on Miranda and custody' date=' that is misleading to the lay person.[/quote']

 

I can try to explain better later. On my phone now and don't feel like typing that much on it :lol2:

I can try to explain better later. On my phone now and don't feel like typing that much on it :lol2:

 

I could see it getting difficult for a police officer in the field. Do I turn on my camera, read them their rights, and then take them into custody? Or was that read them their rights,....