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Police Officers Wearing Lapel Devices That Record Them While On Duty

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Ask any police officer what is the worst part about being a cop and get back with me.

 

Okay then. Figured you'd be the person to ask seeing as you were a cop....

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Question - are these police officers required to tell people they come in contact with that they are wearing a camera? The article in the link did not address that issue.

Okay then. Figured you'd be the person to ask seeing as you were a cop....

 

We are helping a fine, young man with a research paper, let's do some research!

Question - are these police officers required to tell people they come in contact with that they are wearing a camera? The article in the link did not address that issue.

 

Not my area of expertise but I don't believe so.

Not my area of expertise but I don't believe so.

 

I don't have a stake in the game myself, but I could see somebody complaining, especially if Miranda Rights were not given.

I don't have a stake in the game myself, but I could see somebody complaining, especially if Miranda Rights were not given.

 

Simple answer there, no miranda no can use.

Question - are these police officers required to tell people they come in contact with that they are wearing a camera? The article in the link did not address that issue.

 

I was always under the impression that as long as one party knows it's being recorded, it's fair game.

In general terms, I would like everyone to imagine being at work and having every interaction on video/audio?

 

Private companies should do this, right? One could only assume almost every employee would be much more productive and if they weren't the boss could fire them.

 

Think about this everyone, do you want your every action at work documented with video and audio?

 

Should we do it for teachers, coaches, school administrators? If no, why not?

 

Where do we draw the line?

Biggest problem for officers in my opinion would be the "Monday Morning Quarterbacking" done by superiors, Lawyers and the Public after an incident in which the officer had a millisecond to make a decision. It would be picked apart in slow motion digital video review by everyone else, after the fact. No one is perfect and that includes police officers, but police officers are held to a higher standard than many and face higher scrutiny than most.

In general terms, I would like everyone to imagine being at work and having every interaction on video/audio?

 

Private companies should do this, right? One could only assume almost every employee would be much more productive and if they weren't the boss could fire them.

 

Think about this everyone, do you want your every action at work documented with video and audio?

 

Should we do it for teachers, coaches, school administrators? If no, why not?

 

Where do we draw the line?

Basically what I meant you just said it better.

I was always under the impression that as long as one party knows it's being recorded, it's fair game.

 

This is why I said it isn't my area of expertise. Maybe on a phone conversation (otherwise it would be an illegal wire tap) but not in public. In other words, you can use the video on your phone and record an officer on a traffic stop if you want. However, going into someone private home may be a separate issue. And I think some of this is what Joker is getting at. So many issues...

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We are helping a fine, young man with a research paper, let's do some research!

 

Hahaha... I wish it were that easy. I have 100,000 WestlawNext results to sort through already.

Biggest problem for officers in my opinion would be the "Monday Morning Quarterbacking" done by superiors, Lawyers and the Public after an incident in which the officer had a millisecond to make a decision. It would be picked apart in slow motion digital video review by everyone else, after the fact. No one is perfect and that includes police officers, but police officers are held to a higher standard than many and face higher scrutiny than most.

 

And almost every police department has those couple of supervisors/administrators that love to second guess everything and they have plenty of enemies. The enforcement and discipline would be all over the place (depending if are one of the teachers pets or not) and there would be so much in fighting at the police department it would be a dreadful work environment.

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I was always under the impression that as long as one party knows it's being recorded, it's fair game.

 

Speaking past my area of expertise, so this could be wrong, but I think that generally, there are "one party" or "two party" states. In a "one party" state, the basic rule is that one party has to be aware. In a "two party", it's both. There are exceptions and other rules that inter-play into this though. For example, there are different standards for say a lawyer, etc.

 

There are probably also issues with entrapment, etc. that could get hairy given the situations.

 

Also, I'd imagine that most don't have a good enough understanding of when a "reasonable expectation of privacy" does and does not apply. Public places are different from private homes, but there's some areas in between as well.

 

Another issue could be the recording of minors without their parent/guardian's consent.

Biggest problem for officers in my opinion would be the "Monday Morning Quarterbacking" done by superiors, Lawyers and the Public after an incident in which the officer had a millisecond to make a decision. It would be picked apart in slow motion digital video review by everyone else, after the fact. No one is perfect and that includes police officers, but police officers are held to a higher standard than many and face higher scrutiny than most.

 

Also to your specific comment. Sometimes I do a little bit of work for a couple of different law offices and I can tell you when I watch police videos and "they" watch police videos we come to much different conclusions. Of course we all are biased but I think I do a great job of putting myself in the position of the officer and "they" do a great job of playing Monday Morning QB.

 

Very slippery slope folks.

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