October 3, 201312 yr 2) The Department of Homeland Security will stop civil liberties complaint lines, investigation and training. The training will affect employees on the state, local and federal level.
October 3, 201312 yr Message to ALL of them, if you want to be realistic about things. Saying all parties at fault is the standard refrain, but that ain't the case. This is about a bunch of mostly red-state Republican House members trying to rev up their political base by creating a piñata out of the Affordable Care Act.
October 3, 201312 yr Message to GOP: Country over party. :puke: Wait.... :puke: Sorry - dry heaves.... Single payer or bust....
October 3, 201312 yr :puke: Wait.... :puke: Sorry - dry heaves.... Single payer or bust.... I think you picked the wrong little cartoon. You need dry heaves instead of regular heaves. In any event, please refresh my memory. Was there similar outrage from Tea Party extremists a few years back when Bush and the GOP passed the $1.2T Medicare prescription drug benefit?
October 3, 201312 yr I think you picked the wrong little cartoon. You need dry heaves instead of regular heaves. In any event, please refresh my memory. Was there similar outrage from Tea Party extremists a few years back when Bush and the GOP passed the $1.2T Medicare prescription drug benefit? If you don't thing there was anger from fiscal conservatives like me you are crazy. Were there protest no. Protests sprung up from multiple spending bills by Obama and Bush. Liberals who think there isn't some anger in tea party for Bush for spending are crazy.
October 3, 201312 yr 2) The Department of Homeland Security will stop civil liberties complaint lines, investigation and training. The training will affect employees on the state, local and federal level. The horror. Homeland security is a bloated agency born out of fear and filled with red tape.
October 3, 201312 yr I think you picked the wrong little cartoon. You need dry heaves instead of regular heaves. In any event, please refresh my memory. Was there similar outrage from Tea Party extremists a few years back when Bush and the GOP passed the $1.2T Medicare prescription drug benefit? That was not single payer....the holy grail... I hope we see Casino Harry pushing the appropriations bills to keep priorities open - country over party, right? So far, no.
October 3, 201312 yr Saying all parties at fault is the standard refrain, but that ain't the case. This is about a bunch of mostly red-state Republican House members trying to rev up their political base by creating a piñata out of the Affordable Care Act. Not the issue, do you think democrats put country ahead of party?
October 3, 201312 yr Saying all parties at fault is the standard refrain, but that ain't the case. This is about a bunch of mostly red-state Republican House members trying to rev up their political base by creating a piñata out of the Affordable Care Act. Where can I get this pinata ? Sounds like fun.
October 3, 201312 yr Not the issue, do you think democrats put country ahead of party? To amplify, posts 107 and 113 define the problem fairly succinctly. Essentially, we've got a bunch of GOP Dixiecrats trying to show their right-wing constituents how tough they are.
October 3, 201312 yr Yes. Wow, I really didn't think you were that naive. Good to know for future reference.
October 3, 201312 yr Wow, I really didn't think you were that naive. Good to know for future reference. You sound like my wife. Just for effect, I'll give it to you again: Democrats, unlike Republicans, put America first. The current shutdown is not a two-party problem, it's a result of Republican/Tea Party/Dixiecrat obstructionism. Print it out and frame it.
October 3, 201312 yr You sound like my wife. Just for effect, I'll give it to you again: Democrats, unlike Republicans, put America first. The current shutdown is not a two-party problem, it's a result of Republican/Tea Party/Dixiecrat obstructionism. Print it out and frame it. Good to know your wife agrees with me, she knows you best. I'll remember to pray for her. Attitudes like yours are what allows Washington to operate like it does. You put party ahead of country and allow your representatives to do the same rather than hold them accountable. Print this out and frame it, Democrats don't care about you at all any more than the Republicans do. Both would rather win political points than do what's best for the country. That is why there is so much flip flopping when power changes hands.
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