July 12, 201313 yr That stuff was less than 10 years old, and I highly doubt he has abandoned any of those positions. He may have softened them a bit for public consumption in recent years, but behind closed doors he and Jim Bob Joe Jack and the rest of his buddies are speaking a much harsher language. I'm sorry, but this guy is a scumbag bigot, or he simply plays one on the Internet and talk radio. If Paul is to be taken seriously, he does not need people like this anywhere near him. Having a guy like this on staff basically screams "Blacks and Hispanics not welcome!" Rev. Wright and Ayers were oaky for Obama though, right?
July 12, 201313 yr Don't forget how he wrote about John Wilkes Booth having his heart in the right place when he killed Lincoln. Did you read the actual blog post that quote was pulled from? Southern Avenger - Archive Detail
July 12, 201313 yr Rev. Wright and Ayers were oaky for Obama though, right? That bridge has already sailed, champ. I am no Obama supporter. Try to keep up.
July 12, 201313 yr That stuff was less than 10 years old, and I highly doubt he has abandoned any of those positions. He may have softened them a bit for public consumption in recent years, but behind closed doors he and Jim Bob Joe Jack and the rest of his buddies are speaking a much harsher language. I'm sorry, but this guy is a scumbag bigot, or he simply plays one on the Internet and talk radio. If Paul is to be taken seriously, he does not need people like this anywhere near him. Having a guy like this on staff basically screams "Blacks and Hispanics not welcome!" I'm sorry you feel that way, Jim. You clearly have not read his columns nor the ones I posted earlier in the thread.
July 12, 201313 yr That bridge has already sailed, champ. I am no Obama supporter. Try to keep up. I know you aren't, but most who are bashing Paul in here were silent or supportive of Obama when his associations with those guys were brought up. I just think the irony is funny. And yes, he should distance himself from this guy, but if it didn't hurt President Obama, I really doubt it'll hurt him if he decides to run.
July 12, 201313 yr A United States Senator employs a guy who actively supported the dissolution of the union and wrote that a non-white America would "cease to be America"? No problem with that whatsoever? Also, it was less about supporting secession and more about fighting for the states to have that right. Like I said, read his articles, do research on the man -- quit reading what MSM news outlets are calling him.
July 12, 201313 yr Did you read the actual blog post that quote was pulled from? Southern Avenger - Archive Detail I love this crackpot stuff. It's kind of become the Southern narrative with some of them, a way of glorifying the Old South while whitewashing slavery's scar from the text. Can't have it both ways, folks. Secession happened so the southern states could preserve an economic institution built on the backs of free labor. Any of this other stuff is just window dressing.
July 12, 201313 yr I know you aren't, but most who are bashing Paul in here were silent or supportive of Obama when his associations with those guys were brought up. I just think the irony is funny. And yes, he should distance himself from this guy, but if it didn't hurt President Obama, I really doubt it'll hurt him if he decides to run. Obama had other things on his side to counteract the negative influences of those guys, most notably weak opposition. Paul may not be so fortunate, given his and his father's tendency to draw in the crackpots at a far larger scale than Obama. Especially against a campaign machine as ruthless as the Clintons'.
July 12, 201313 yr How many years of non-association or non-contact is enough?:idunno: I think it would depend on each person and each case. I think you would agree that people can change, sometimes it takes a long period of time, sometimes it can happen suddenly.
July 12, 201313 yr :idunno: I think it would depend on each person and each case. I think you would agree that people can change, sometimes it takes a long period of time, sometimes it can happen suddenly. If this "Southern Avenger" character had some kind of epiphany that led to a change of heart from radical and racist beliefs such as that, you might think he would have some reference to his Pauline moment somewhere. I ain't seeing it.
July 12, 201313 yr If this "Southern Avenger" character had some kind of epiphany that led to a change of heart from radical and racist beliefs such as that, you might think he would have some reference to his Pauline moment somewhere. I ain't seeing it. I'd never heard of him before this thread, I was just speaking in general terms based off of the question asked. I wouldn't know Hunter if he knocked on my door.
July 12, 201313 yr I love this crackpot stuff. It's kind of become the Southern narrative with some of them, a way of glorifying the Old South while whitewashing slavery's scar from the text. Can't have it both ways, folks. Secession happened so the southern states could preserve an economic institution built on the backs of free labor. Any of this other stuff is just window dressing. That may of been the case for secession, but I can easily make the case it was too strong of a federal government that allowed slavery to exist in the first place. You cannot however equate advocating a states right to secession with being pro-slavery or racism. Can I or should I equate being pro-big government with being racist? No.
July 12, 201313 yr Author Did you read the actual blog post that quote was pulled from? Southern Avenger - Archive Detail Yes I did.
July 12, 201313 yr If this "Southern Avenger" character had some kind of epiphany that led to a change of heart from radical and racist beliefs such as that, you might think he would have some reference to his Pauline moment somewhere. I ain't seeing it. He must of written this back in April to show he isn't a racist, right? Why Gay Marriage Isn?t the ?60s Civil Rights Fight | The American Conservative The 20-something me would consider the 30-something me a bleeding-heart liberal. Though I still hate political correctness, I no longer find it valuable to attack PC by charging off in the opposite direction, making insensitive remarks that even if right in fact were so wrong in form. I’m not the first political pundit to use excessive hyperbole. I might be one of the few to admit being embarrassed about it...... I still detest those on the left and right who exploit racial tension for their own purposes. But I detest even more the inhumanity suffered by African-Americans in our early and later history. T.S. Eliot said, “humankind cannot bear too much reality,” and it is impossible for those of us living in the new millennium to comprehend that absolute horror of being treated like chattel by your fellow man, or being terrorized by your neighbors, because of the color of your skin.... ...I have gay friends who are married. The states in which they reside might not recognize their unions, but their friends and families do, and they generally live their lives in peace. No one is turning water hoses on them. They are not being attacked by police dogs. There is no Bull Connor or Ku Klux Klan. They are not being lynched en masse, drinking at separate fountains, or being ordered to the back of the bus... Still, with the possible exception of the mistreatment of Native Americans, there has been nothing quite like the systematic exploitation and institutional degradation experienced by earlier black Americans. My purpose here is not to belittle the fight for gay marriage, only to note that those who keep attempting to draw a reasonable comparison to the struggle of African-Americans are in many ways belittling the black experience in the United States. The Southern Avenger. What a radical-racist monster.
July 12, 201313 yr He must of written this back in April to show he isn't a racist, right? Why Gay Marriage Isn?t the ?60s Civil Rights Fight | The American Conservative The Southern Avenger. What a radical-racist monster. Does he wear his Stars and Bars rasslin' mask when he writes these columns quoting T.S. Eliot?
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