Speeding has never been a hindrance to another individual. This is totally another animal.

 

See above.

See above.

 

Apparently speeding and reckless driving are different.. I brought up the same argument earlier...

Well' date=' like I said, I always knew I was breaking the law when speeding and that put me in the wrong, so I'm not saying it's ok to speed. The law is the law. Heck, many times I was caught speeding, I didn't realize I was until it was too late. Not always the case though. Again, unless I'm going so fast as to be a danger to others, it's apples to oranges though. One is breaking a law that generally doesn't affect others, the second blatantly affects others with intent to do so. Let's be honest, if I'm going 10 or 15 over, you aren't affected, If you're handicapped and do what was done in the picture, you're affected. That's why I say apples to oranges. I do agree that the law is the law, however.[/quote']

 

With both examples I'd argue nobody is affected by the act. Simply parking there doesn't affect anyone. It's only until someone handicap needs the spot is someone actually affected.

 

Same goes with speeding. Nobody is affected by your speeding. But once your speeding causes a wreck then someone is affected.

 

Not condoning the action, just arguing the logic.

 

Apparently speeding and reckless driving are different.. I brought up the same argument earlier...

 

I think you used the example of running someone off the road. Which to me implied intent. I'm just saying a wreck caused by high speed.

I think you used the example of running someone off the road. Which to me implied intent. I'm just saying a wreck caused by high speed.

 

I should have clarified then. I meant the same as you, a wreck caused by high speed.

 

I should have clarified then. I meant the same as you, a wreck caused by high speed.

 

:thumb:

 

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

If someone disregarding the speed limit causes a multi-car wreck due to their high speed aren't they causing a greater hindrance to someone else?

I repeat, that's not just speeding, that's reckless driving. Excessive speed by itself is sufficient for a reckless driving conviction in many jurisdictions. If you're going so fast that you cause an accident, you just entered into a much worse crime than speeding and are looking at the possibility of large fines, being arrested, and/or having your drivers license suspended (possibly revoked).

Edited June 19, 201313 yr by Run To State

With both examples I'd argue nobody is affected by the act. Simply parking there doesn't affect anyone. It's only until someone handicap needs the spot is someone actually affected.

 

Same goes with speeding. Nobody is affected by your speeding. But once your speeding causes a wreck then someone is affected.

 

Not condoning the action, just arguing the logic.

Isn't that what I said, though? :lol2: What I was saying is if you're handicapped and someone blocked the spots like what was pictured, you're affected.

Speeding is one thing, reckless driving is another animal, like I stated above.

I repeat' date=' that's not just speeding, that's reckless driving. Excessive speed by itself is sufficient for a reckless driving conviction in many jurisdictions. If you're going so fast that you cause an accident, you just entered into a much worse crime than speeding and are looking at the possibility of large fines, being arrested, and/or having your drivers license suspended (possibly revoked).[/quote']

 

Fairly certain the cause of an accident can be ruled as speeding without a reckless driving charge.

What I was saying is if you're handicapped and someone blocked the spots like what was pictured, you're affected.

 

But you're not if there are still available spaces...

Fairly certain the cause of an accident can be ruled as speeding without a reckless driving charge.

It's going to depend on how fast you were going, but I'm fairly certain if you're speeding and cause an accident you're likely to be charged with reckless driving along with speeding unless the cop is nice enough to give you a break. Traffic conditions or time of day while speeding can get you a reckless driving charge. None of this really matters though. It's still apples to oranges. The only reason I can see for people to compare the subject of the thread and speeding is because they know they do or have done both and want to feel it's ok and they simply want to deflect. Both are breaking the law but using the comparison is just another poor excuse. If someone wants to start a thread on speeding, fine, but in this thread it's a deflection and a weak excuse.

Parking in or blocking handicap parking is laziness probably 90% of the time if not more and quite frankly the vast majority of them are morally corrupt, they are self-centered and have no remorse or conscience.

But you're not if there are still available spaces...

Another poor excuse for reprehensible behavior. Like the guy at the end of this video says, maybe you should try living just one day in a wheelchair, then perhaps you'll understand the daily struggles they deal with. Why add to it?

Question-was the 5 spot taken by a driver that LEGITIMATELY used his/her pass? Meaning. .was the driver or anyone in the car handicapped and patronizing the business? Because as much as this burns all y'all up....it burns me up more when able bodied people use an expired pass, or a friend or relative's pass, or use a pass they have so they can provide transportation, when they're just out and about on their own. I see this all the time where I work.

Bugs me too. I just stumbled upon this, sounds like a good tool we could all use.

Report Handicapped Parking Fraud

Another poor excuse for reprehensible behavior. Like the guy at the end of this video says, maybe you should try living just one day in a wheelchair, then perhaps you'll understand the daily struggles they deal with. Why add to it?

 

It's not a poor excuse for anything. How is it adding to anyone's struggles? If there were available spots, no one was inconvenienced?

Bugs me too. I just stumbled upon this, sounds like a good tool we could all use.

Report Handicapped Parking Fraud

The link says to put in the placard number, plate, time and location. If they have a placard why would someone report them?