May 6, 201313 yr When Bills defensive Mario Williams proposed to his fiancee, he sealed the deal with a $785,000 ring. Now that the engagement has been scuttled, Williams wants the ring back from Erin Marzouki. She refuses to surrender it, so Williams has sued. According to KTRK-TV, Williams filed suit Friday for recovery of the ring, which includes a 10-carat diamond. Williams reportedly alleges that Erin Marzouki “never intended to marry plaintiff and used the relationship as a means to get to plaintiff’s money and acquire gifts.” She ended up with quite an expensive gift, but it came with a promise to marry Williams. Regardless of how the law sorts this one out, she should give back the ring. Mario Williams sues ex-fiancee for ring | ProFootballTalk
May 6, 201313 yr Author I would assume there is a lot of legal precedent on this exact issue. Anyone?
May 6, 201313 yr I don't know the law but I always thought when an engagement is broken then the ring is supposed to go back to the guy if he wants it back. I have no clue though, luckily I've not been in that situation.
May 6, 201313 yr Author I found this out of an article on CNN.com: Engagement rings fall under property, contract or family law, and how they are treated varies by state. In California, it depends on who broke the engagement. For example, if the person who received the ring is the one who is reneging on the engagement, then that person must relinquish the jewelry. In New York, North Carolina, Minnesota, Tennessee and other states, appellate courts say engagement rings are conditional gifts that must be returned to the gift giver if the condition -- namely, the marriage -- does not take place, regardless of who broke off the engagement. Kansas and Montana say a gift, once given, cannot be taken back. Oklahoma, where Celeste lives, has no cases on file governing engagement rings, so guidance would have to be drawn from nearby states, says Katherine Frye, family law specialist at Atkins & Markoff in Oklahoma City. Texas, she says, takes circumstances into account. Who gets the ring also depends on when it is given. Most courts have found that giving an engagement ring on a birthday or a holiday, such as Christmas or Valentine's Day, makes the ring a simple gift. But many people go with what feels right. Conventional wisdom has it that a woman should return the ring if she cancels the wedding, but keep it if her fiancé makes the break. Etiquette maven Emily Post says a ring always should be returned when the engagement is broken. "There's a really big difference between culture and the law," says Joanna Grossman, a professor at Hofstra University School of Law. "What people do is largely dictated by cultural traditions, and many aren't aware of what the law requires."
May 6, 201313 yr I'd say if this goes to court then she'll be ordered to give the ring back. She just wants it to sell and get the money I'd assume.
May 6, 201313 yr Author Williams presented the engagement ring to Marzouki on Feb. 19, 2012, according to the lawsuit. He also gave her an American Express card to which she charged $108,000 during 2012 and “additional luxurious items” valued at about $230,000, attorneys said. However, Marzouki “unilaterally terminated” the engagement on Jan. 21, 2012, and has refused Williams’ request to return the diamond engagement ring, which she had promised to do if the engagement ended, according to the lawsuit. Williams’ attorneys are seeking a temporary restraining order and a permanent injunction preventing Marzouki or her associates from selling or damaging the ring or keeping any proceeds from the sale of the ring. Williams is entitled to recovery of the ring, they say, under a “conditional gift rule” recognized by Texas courts. Ultimate Texans » Mario Williams sues to get his engagement ring back
May 6, 201313 yr Author I would sure like to hear her side because the Williams side paints her as the ultimate gold digger. 338K in other expenses... And I bet that doesn't include anything he paid for when the two of them were together.
May 7, 201313 yr I would assume there is a lot of legal precedent on this exact issue. Anyone? I worked at a lawfirm in college. One of the paralegals was getting ready to propose to his girlfriend, and one of the attorneys gave him a piece of advice: don't do it on her birthday, Christmas, or Valentine's Day. Gifts are gifts, and they become legal property of the person to whom they are given. Therefore, if you propose and give your girlfriend/fiancee a ring on an occasion that bears a precedence of being a gift-giving circumstance, then the ring becomes legal property of the girlfriend/fiancee. This may only be the case in Kentucky...I'm really not all that sure...but it seems like pretty sound advice on the whole.
May 7, 201313 yr Seems odd he'd give her an engagement ring AFTER she broke off said engagement....:idunno:
May 7, 201313 yr Didn't something pretty similar to this happen a year or two ago? I can't remember who it was but I remember it being a big deal at the time. It had something to do with proposing through the mail or something like that. In the end I think this girl ended up giving the ring back, but I cannot remember who that was now. Almost positive it was a professional athlete though, and I'm wanting to say NFL player.
May 7, 201313 yr Didn't something pretty similar to this happen a year or two ago? I can't remember who it was but I remember it being a big deal at the time. It had something to do with proposing through the mail or something like that. In the end I think this girl ended up giving the ring back, but I cannot remember who that was now. Almost positive it was a professional athlete though, and I'm wanting to say NFL player. Roy Williams of the Cowboys. He proposed and she said no lol. Brooke Daniels Sued by Cowboys Roy Williams Over Engagement Ring | Robert Littal Presents BlackSportsOnline
May 7, 201313 yr Didn't something pretty similar to this happen a year or two ago? I can't remember who it was but I remember it being a big deal at the time. It had something to do with proposing through the mail or something like that. In the end I think this girl ended up giving the ring back, but I cannot remember who that was now. Almost positive it was a professional athlete though, and I'm wanting to say NFL player. Jay Cutler did that.
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