I would guarantee there are more private school students that leave to attend a public high school and then participate in athletics than the other way around.

 

Part of that is sheer numbers. Many, many more private grade school students attend a public high school than public school students leave to come to a private high school.

 

Remember the cost roughly doubles at least on average to attend a private high school than a private grade school. Many cannot afford it especially if there is no than one child in the family.

So a question might be arisen in the private school world that they look into lowering the cost for private high school or they might see a drop in attendance at the private grade school.

 

It will be interesting to see how this all plays out.

I would guarantee there are more private school students that leave to attend a public high school and then participate in athletics than the other way around.

 

Part of that is sheer numbers. Many, many more private grade school students attend a public high school than public school students leave to come to a private high school.

 

Remember the cost roughly doubles at least on average to attend a private high school than a private grade school. Many cannot afford it especially if there is no than one child in the family.

 

I can't disagree with what you are saying but if you asked those who do go to private schools a very high percentage would tell you, if they are honest with themselves, that they switched schools for athletic reasons.

Highlands benefitted from Jamie Walz.

 

The school you supported benefitted from Rachel Lantry.

 

Whereever Nikki Davis played before moving to Lex Cath has benefitted.

 

The 10th region sees tremendous benefit. The non-NKY schools in the 10th region have a MS fall basketball schedule. A bunch of MSers move up to the HS team come winter.

 

At Harrison County, Megan Gray (at Georgetown), Noelle Whitaker (scored like 2000 points), Camryn Whitaker (WKU) and Brooke Faulkner (WKU) all played and started for Varsity as MSers. Trust me, I had to coach against them for what seemed eternities.

 

Montgomery County benefitted.

 

Iroquois started 2 or 3 MSers last year in the state tournament. Pike County Central started 2 or 3 MSers when they were in the state tournament 2 years ago.

 

And that is off the top of my head.

 

All true.

 

But how much would a ban of grade/middle school students playing on high school Varsity/JV/Frosh teams hurt the high school? Now for example, it could mean not having a Frosh team in some sports and just having a JV team.

 

I notice it hasn't hurt Varsity Football all that much. I am sure there are some middle/grade school players that could contribute on the Varsity level but since they are banned from doing so, it doesn't seem to cause any hardships.

I can't disagree with what you are saying but if you asked those who do go to private schools a very high percentage would tell you, if they are honest with themselves, that they switched schools for athletic reasons.

 

I guess I'm a liar.

All true.

 

But how much would a ban of grade/middle school students playing on high school Varsity/JV/Frosh teams hurt the high school? Now for example, it could mean not having a Frosh team in some sports and just having a JV team.

 

I notice it hasn't hurt Varsity Football all that much. I am sure there are some middle/grade school players that could contribute on the Varsity level but since they are banned from doing so, it doesn't seem to cause any hardships.

Not sure I agree with this. There are some smaller schools or newer football programs that comments have been made that they suffer from lack of numbers. Just not enough depth where an 8th grade class might have helped that situation. Especially on a JV level.

 

Not sure I follow your questions in the 2nd paragraph. Depth, talent level, helping in the development all could be hurt. How would Jamie Walz's development have changed if she was allowed to only compete against other MS students? She was obviously much, much above that level. Does it help her development to only get to play against teams/players that cannot challenge her?

I guess I'm a liar.

 

O.K. if you say so. Only you would know for sure. :ylsuper:

O.K. if you say so. Only you would know for sure. :ylsuper:

 

That's exactly my point. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Thanks. :banana:

That's exactly my point. You have absolutley no idea what you are talking about. Thanks. :banana:

There are some that make the decision based on athletics and some that make the decision based on academics. Just as some transfer to public schools based upon athletics and some that transfer based upon issues not relating to athletics.

I can't disagree with what you are saying but if you asked those who do go to private schools a very high percentage would tell you, if they are honest with themselves, that they switched schools for athletic reasons.

 

 

You couldn't be further from the truth. The number of kids who attend Trinity (for example) that attended public grade/middle schools who do NOT play sports is a pretty good number, as compared to those that do. On the other hand, student participation in extracurricular activities in Catholic high schools as a whole.

Not sure I agree with this. There are some smaller schools or newer football programs that comments have been made that they suffer from lack of numbers. Just not enough depth where an 8th grade class might have helped that situation. Especially on a JV level.

 

Not sure I follow your questions in the 2nd paragraph. Depth, talent level, helping in the development all could be hurt. How would Jamie Walz's development have changed if she was allowed to only compete against other MS students? She was obviously much, much above that level. Does it help her development to only get to play against teams/players that cannot challenge her?

 

Middle school students do not belong on a high school football team period. Of course there will be some that are physically able to survive but the majority would be placed in situation where they would be over-whelmed and injured. There is already that problem on some high school teams that are dressing 15 players with many of them Frosh against teams dressing 55 players and no Frosh. The safety of the student must come first.

 

As for Ms. Walz the first game she ever played against females was as a Varsity starter in the 7th grade. So if she could not play Varsity basketball in the 7th and 8th grade, she would have continued playing against Boys. Maybe she just had a fortunate situation and others may not have had a similar situation.

 

I just do not think there is a dire need to have students who do not attend the high school representing the high school and playing on high school Varsity teams. I can somewhat understand them playing on JV or Frosh teams but if it comes down to making a school choice in 6th grade or a rule that you must be in high school to play high school sports I'll take the last one.

Middle school students do not belong on a high school football team period. Of course there will be some that are physically able to survive but the majority would be placed in situation where they would be over-whelmed and injured. There is already that problem on some high school teams that are dressing 15 players with many of them Frosh against teams dressing 55 players and no Frosh. The safety of the student must come first.

 

As for Ms. Walz the first game she ever played against females was as a Varsity starter in the 7th grade. So if she could not play Varsity basketball in the 7th and 8th grade, she would have continued playing against Boys. Maybe she just had a fortunate situation and others may not have had a similar situation.

 

I just do not think there is a dire need to have students who do not attend the high school representing the high school and playing on high school Varsity teams. I can somewhat understand them playing on JV or Frosh teams but if it comes down to making a school choice in 6th grade or a rule that you must be in high school to play high school sports I'll take the last one.

Agree with your first paragraph 100%.

 

I believe Augusta School (probably 200-300 students K-12) has maybe all the grade levels in one building. I believe Deming has MS and HS grade levels in the same building. Please correct me if this is misleading.

 

So they could be in the same building in Mt. Olivet and Augusta, share the same cafeteria but not play on the same team. I believe you would see some of the smaller schools not fielding a team.

 

Banning MS students would result, no doubt, in some programs not fielding a team. Maybe just a handful, but those kids deserve a chance to play.

 

Checked the KHSAA website for enrollment. Deming had 74 females in the 9th-12th grade. Augusta had 43 females in the same grades. Awful tight to draw a team in almost any sport from just these numbers. Especially if you want to have a JV team in that sport.

 

KHSAA is NOT just about the big schools public or private. Some BGP posters need to realize that. (NOT meaning you necessarily) Just that posters think it is so easy for KHSAA to make a call. But the KHSAA has to look at St. X and their 7,000 guys in school and a school like Augusta. And try to find a situation that works for both.

 

THE KHSAA is NOT about, well sorry that Augusta is just that way and they are going to have to live with it. It is about finding a way for St. X and Augusta to have the chance for success.

I can't disagree with what you are saying but if you asked those who do go to private schools a very high percentage would tell you, if they are honest with themselves, that they switched schools for athletic reasons.

 

I won't disagree or agree with that. Without a doubt there are some public school students who choose a private high school for athletic reasons. Often they have looked at the situation and decided that the public school program in their sport(s) is just not as competitive as they would like or the team just simply isn't going to be "good" for the next four years. And there are a lot of public school kids who switch to another public school for the same reason.

 

There are also some public school students who choose a private school because of reasons other than athletics. Friends going there, family wants more discipline for little Suzy, have other extra activities that the student is interested in, bad experience in another school etc.

Agree with your first paragraph 100%.

 

I believe Augusta School (probably 200-300 students K-12) has maybe all the grade levels in one building. I believe Deming has MS and HS grade levels in the same building. Please correct me if this is misleading.

 

So they could be in the same building in Mt. Olivet and Augusta, share the same cafeteria but not play on the same team. I believe you would see some of the smaller schools not fielding a team.

 

Banning MS students would result, no doubt, in some programs not fielding a team. Maybe just a handful, but those kids deserve a chance to play.

 

 

Then play on a middle school team. Get them to involve all their friends so you can field a team at the high school level.

 

Silver Grove is a small school (80 students) that is not fielding a Girls Basketball team this year. (No trouble fielding a Boys team and they actually hold their own very well).

 

Now instead of putting 5th thru 8th grade girls on the high school team they are doing the correct thing by not fielding a team and trying to build for the years to come by fielding teams at the lower levels.

 

How many schools do not offer some sports because they cannot field a team? There are many. How many do not have football? How many do not have swimming? How many do not have soccer or volleyball? How many get cut in basketball? Kids in those schools find some other activity. There is no guarantee that by attending high school you get to play.

:thumb: That is pretty much how it has happened at the school I support on at least 2 ocassions in recent years.

 

Is there a bus that cruises around Ludlow waiting for athletes to hop on and take them East?

Then play on a middle school team. Get them to involve all their friends so you can field a team at the high school level.

 

Silver Grove is a small school (80 students) that is not fielding a Girls Basketball team this year. (No trouble fielding a Boys team and they actually hold their own very well).

 

Now instead of putting 5th thru 8th grade girls on the high school team they are doing the correct thing by not fielding a team and trying to build for the years to come by fielding teams at the lower levels.

 

How many schools do not offer some sports because they cannot field a team? There are many. How many do not have football? How many do not have swimming? How many do not have soccer or volleyball? How many get cut in basketball? Kids in those schools find some other activity. There is no guarantee that by attending high school you get to play.

And there is the rub. Easy to say but when Prop 20 came about, you were upset because the private school athletes were not getting the chance to compete.

 

There has to be some way to give KIDS chances to PLAY. And I hope the KHSAA keeps working to find it.