Is there a bus that cruises around Ludlow waiting for athletes to hop on and take them East?

Don't think so but there are some great AAU teams in NKY waiting for good basketball players.

And there is the rub. Easy to say but when Prop 20 came about, you were upset because the private school athletes were not getting the chance to compete.

 

There has to be some way to give KIDS chances to PLAY. And I hope the KHSAA keeps working to find it.

 

I have never been against high school students playing high school sports. I just do not see the necessity of grade school students playing high school sports.

 

I wish all schools could offer all sports but I know that is not realistic with the size of some schools and the money involved.

 

As for Prop 20 no one would have playing anything because the KHSAA would be belly-up broke and would cease to exist. And then who knows what would have happened.

I have never been against high school students playing high school sports. I just do not see the necessity of grade school students playing high school sports.

 

I wish all schools could offer all sports but I know that is not realistic with the size of some schools and the money involved.

 

As for Prop 20 no one would have playing anything because the KHSAA would be belly-up broke and would cease to exist. And then who knows what would have happened.

KHSAA existing and was successul long before private schools became vogue. They will exist afterwards. And before I am called a hater, if there was a Christian school for my kids to attend, they would be.

 

I believe this is the beginning of grasping the problem behind HS athletics. It is used to be community versus community. That has changed, somewhat. While the rural public schools are still community schools, the urban schools are not. The private schools are communities but based on faith and not location.

 

A county school, we see our middle school as part of our program and not something different. There is one HS and one MS. You go to MS here and don't move out of the county, you will go to the HS.

 

The mindsets of urban supporters, rural supporters and private school supporters are very, very different and based upon very, very different experiences.

KHSAA existing and was successul long before private schools became vogue. They will exist afterwards. And before I am called a hater, if there was a Christian school for my kids to attend, they would be.

 

I believe this is the beginning of grasping the problem behind HS athletics. It is used to be community versus community. That has changed, somewhat. While the rural public schools are still community schools, the urban schools are not. The private schools are communities but based on faith and not location.

 

A county school, we see our middle school as part of our program and not something different. There is one HS and one MS. You go to MS here and don't move out of the county, you will go to the HS.

 

The mindsets of urban supporters, rural supporters and private school supporters are very, very different and based upon very, very different experiences.

 

 

And that's why there will be no compromise or proposal that addresses issues equally, nor a "leveling of the playing" field. The term "level playing field" is an oxymoron. There is simply no such thing.

 

Think of it this way.....it's like the "liberal agenda" to redistribute the wealth of the rich to the poorest.

And that's why there will be no compromise or proposal that addresses issues equally, nor a "leveling of the playing" field. The term "level playing field" is an oxymoron. There is simply no such thing.

I can agree with this. I believe the task force is trying to find a scenario that does not seem to benefit one party over another. That is going to be very difficult to find.

While using Middle School players can help numbers and allow some programs to be more viable, do they need to be played at the varsity level? What would be wrong with allowing them to participate at Frosh or JV level and allow some of the HS students to move up a level to fill in numbers. That way if the 8th grade student decides to go to a different HS (and some do for legitimate reasons) there would be no eligibilty issue because they had not played varsity sports.

 

This also allows for added numbers in the program to help ensure the survival of programs at some of the smaller schools.

While using Middle School players can help numbers and allow some programs to be more viable, do they need to be played at the varsity level? What would be wrong with allowing them to participate at Frosh or JV level and allow some of the HS students to move up a level to fill in numbers. That way if the 8th grade student decides to go to a different HS (and some do for legitimate reasons) there would be no eligibilty issue because they had not played varsity sports.

 

This also allows for added numbers in the program to help ensure the survival of programs at some of the smaller schools.

Presently, there are no issues on their eligibility. That proposal was defeated in October.

 

After the first day of the girls golf state tournament, it was led by a 6th grader. She finished in the top 15 I believe. You would deny her the right to compete athletically but academically, if she was of that level, she could skip a grade and graduate early with no problem.

Also, I am hearing a lot of comments about why should the KHSAA being telling anyone where my kid should attend HS.

 

Using that same mindset, why should the KHSAA be telling anyone whether their child is ready to compete at the Varsity level. Should that not be the coach and parents choice? As posters are feeling it is the parents choice where to attend HS?

 

Just wanting to make sure we are not talking out of both sides of our mouth.

I don't think that until a person has been involved in a small school, they cannot appreciate the need to have some middle schoolers on the high school teams. There arises problems when a sport cannot field a team, if that is a girl's team. Then you run into Title IX issues. That could have a negative impact on one of the boy's teams (possibly not being able to play).

Also, I am hearing a lot of comments about why should the KHSAA being telling anyone where my kid should attend HS.

 

Using that same mindset, why should the KHSAA be telling anyone whether their child is ready to compete at the Varsity level. Should that not be the coach and parents choice? As posters are feeling it is the parents choice where to attend HS?

 

Just wanting to make sure we are not talking out of both sides of our mouth.

I don't tlike the idea of middle school students playing on high school teams, but I don't object to it. I do believe that if kids play for a high school team they should be subject to the same transfer rules. I also believe that the transfer rules should apply to all levels of competition.

I don't think that until a person has been involved in a small school, they cannot appreciate the need to have some middle schoolers on the high school teams. There arises problems when a sport cannot field a team, if that is a girl's team. Then you run into Title IX issues. That could have a negative impact on one of the boy's teams (possibly not being able to play).

Good point.

I don't tlike the idea of middle school students playing on high school teams, but I don't object to it. I do believe that if kids play for a high school team they should be subject to the same transfer rules. I also believe that the transfer rules should apply to all levels of competition.

I agree but presently they do not.

That's exactly my point. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. Thanks. :banana:

 

:laugh: Alright then. Get over youself. I know far more then some people wish I did. Obviously I struck a nerve with you. :flame:

Everyone:

 

 

 

Keep this civil, and personal attacks out of it.

 

It's a good discussion. Keep it that way.

THE KHSAA is NOT about, well sorry that Augusta is just that way and they are going to have to live with it. It is about finding a way for St. X and Augusta to have the chance for success.

You are 100% wrong here. The KHSAA is in no way shape or form in the business of parity among teams. The KHSAA is is in the business of enforcing rules. If a school can follow the rules and still be athletically superior to most o other schools so be it.

 

As to the whole middle school question, Indiana does not allow middle school kids to participate in high schools sports and their whole world hasn't fallen apart. It is high school sports not middle school/high school.