a considerable part of the issue driving the 2-year ban compromise?

 

I have heard of the stories of 8th graders who play varsity sports for a high school that switch high schools when they are freshmen. My understanding is that when that happens they do not sit out a year as they would have to if they switch between their actual HS grades. Is that true? If so, is this the real heartburn that is leading to the concept of feeder schools and the 2 year ban? Especially among coaches?

 

If this is the case isn't a better 'compromise' to apply the sit-out rule to 8th graders who actually do play varsity sports and switch 'feeder' schools?

 

As the parent of an current 8th grader playing a varsity HS sport I could live with this - because if we do give non-HS student/atheletes the privilege of playing HS varsity sports. And for those few that excercise this privlege expecting them and their parents to 'make the decision' earlier is reasonable.

 

But banning other kids who happen to switch 'feeder schools' and may have no concept of who KHSAA is or what these crazy proposed rules are when they are in middle school is not a good soluton.

While the above does happen, I'd say its low on the list of reasons for the proposal.

 

I'm guessing its a case of public school through 8th grade then LexCath(for example) for high school.

a considerable part of the issue driving the 2-year ban compromise?

 

I have heard of the stories of 8th graders who play varsity sports for a high school that switch high schools when they are freshmen. My understanding is that when that happens they do not sit out a year as they would have to if they switch between their actual HS grades. Is that true?

If so, is this the real heartburn that is leading to the concept of feeder schools and the 2 year ban? Especially among coaches?

 

If this is the case isn't a better 'compromise' to apply the sit-out rule to 8th graders who actually do play varsity sports and switch 'feeder' schools?

 

As the parent of an current 8th grader playing a varsity HS sport I could live with this - because if we do give non-HS student/atheletes the privilege of playing HS varsity sports. And for those few that excercise this privlege expecting them and their parents to 'make the decision' earlier is reasonable.

 

But banning other kids who happen to switch 'feeder schools' and may have no concept of who KHSAA is or what these crazy proposed rules are when they are in middle school is not a good soluton.

:thumb: That is pretty much how it has happened at the school I support on at least 2 ocassions in recent years.

This is yet another reason why two years is too long. A lot of parent/middle school kids will have no idea of the situation that they could get stuck in! This rule is silly to me. What happens if a kid is in a Private Middle School and the parents lose their job so he can't afford to go there anymore so he goes to a Public High School as a Freshman. The kid can't play High School ball until he is a JR because his parents lost their job!!!!

That is ridiculous in my eyes! The people driving this thing really need to think things out before they run and vote on them! Kids are the one's that are going to end up getting hurt!

:thumb: That is pretty much how it has happened at the school I support on at least 2 ocassions in recent years.

 

BIGZIG - since you have some direct experience do you feel that this situation was an abuse by the landing school or the student/athelete's parents?

 

Do you feel that talented 8th graders that play varsity become targets of 'recuiting' by parents, other students, etc. of other institutions just because they are visible as players in middle school?

As long as this is a Two way street and works against kids who leave the Catholic school system and go to a public school then I for one am all for it .

a considerable part of the issue driving the 2-year ban compromise?

 

I have heard of the stories of 8th graders who play varsity sports for a high school that switch high schools when they are freshmen. My understanding is that when that happens they do not sit out a year as they would have to if they switch between their actual HS grades. Is that true? If so, is this the real heartburn that is leading to the concept of feeder schools and the 2 year ban? Especially among coaches?

 

If this is the case isn't a better 'compromise' to apply the sit-out rule to 8th graders who actually do play varsity sports and switch 'feeder' schools?

 

As the parent of an current 8th grader playing a varsity HS sport I could live with this - because if we do give non-HS student/atheletes the privilege of playing HS varsity sports. And for those few that excercise this privlege expecting them and their parents to 'make the decision' earlier is reasonable.

 

But banning other kids who happen to switch 'feeder schools' and may have no concept of who KHSAA is or what these crazy proposed rules are when they are in middle school is not a good soluton.

I think this is a MAJOR, MAJOR reason for the heartburn. It happens alot with players that are high profile. Overall, it is a rare occurrence BUT if you JUST look at the top players in the region/state, it happens a lot.

As long as this is a Two way street and works against kids who leave the Catholic school system and go to a public school then I for one am all for it .

It MUST be equal across the board. :thumb:

It MUST be equal across the board. :thumb:

I venture a guess that more students leave the Catholic school systems across the state to attend the public schools than vice -versa . You are right it MUST be equal across the board.

I venture a guess that more students leave the Catholic school systems across the state to attend the public schools than vice -versa . You are right it MUST be equal across the board.

 

 

You are correct.

I venture a guess that more students leave the Catholic school systems across the state to attend the public schools than vice -versa . You are right it MUST be equal across the board.

Are those students HS athletes though is the question as far as the KHSAA is concerned.

Are those students athletes though is the question.

 

 

Most Catholic school kids play sports in grade school. The participation rate is extremely high.

BIGZIG - since you have some direct experience do you feel that this situation was an abuse by the landing school or the student/athelete's parents?

 

Do you feel that talented 8th graders that play varsity become targets of 'recuiting' by parents, other students, etc. of other institutions just because they are visible as players in middle school?

 

Honestly I have had a considerable amount to think this over and I really would rather not point fingers. I think some of the practices of the "landing school" and or their supporters can definitely be called into question with how they try and pursue middle school atheletes. As for the parents they have to do what they think is best for their kid. I personally may not agree but it is their decision and the ones I know feel that they did what was in the best interest of their children. Who am I to argue, even though I have at times.

How about we just don't play 8th graders on the varsity level. Most truly aren't ready and how many teams are actually going to be that significantly improved by playing an 8th grade student.

Are those students athletes though is the question.

 

I would guarantee there are more private school students that leave to attend a public high school and then participate in athletics than the other way around.

 

Part of that is sheer numbers. Many, many more private grade school students attend a public high school than public school students leave to come to a private high school.

 

Remember the cost roughly doubles at least on average to attend a private high school than a private grade school. Many cannot afford it especially if there is no than one child in the family.

Honestly I have had a considerable amount to think this over and I really would rather not point fingers. I think some of the practices of the "landing school" and or their supporters can definitely be called into question with how they try and pursue middle school atheletes. As for the parents they have to do what they think is best for their kid. I personally may not agree but it is their decision and the ones I know feel that they did what was in the best interest of their children. Who am I to argue, even though I have at times.

How about we just don't play 8th graders on the varsity level. Most truly aren't ready and how many teams are actually going to be that significantly improved by playing an 8th grade student.

Highlands benefitted from Jamie Walz.

 

The school you supported benefitted from Rachel Lantry.

 

Whereever Nikki Davis played before moving to Lex Cath has benefitted.

 

The 10th region sees tremendous benefit. The non-NKY schools in the 10th region have a MS fall basketball schedule. A bunch of MSers move up to the HS team come winter.

 

At Harrison County, Megan Gray (at Georgetown), Noelle Whitaker (scored like 2000 points), Camryn Whitaker (WKU) and Brooke Faulkner (WKU) all played and started for Varsity as MSers. Trust me, I had to coach against them for what seemed eternities.

 

Montgomery County benefitted.

 

Iroquois started 2 or 3 MSers last year in the state tournament. Pike County Central started 2 or 3 MSers when they were in the state tournament 2 years ago.

 

And that is off the top of my head.