Fieger, Bankemper and Slusher.

I remember people talking about the size and talent of an upcoming class at BW. Is that the current frosh class? Did they retain those players?

I remember people talking about the size and talent of an upcoming class at BW. Is that the current frosh class? Did they retain those players?

 

This year's senior class is probably what you are recalling. Size - Maus 6'4or5", Marksberry 6'5", McKenzie 6'7" (not playing). Nussbaum at point was thought to be up and coming talent a couple years ago but he just never has developed any kind of shooting touch. There were a couple other senior athletes that are no longer playing basketball.

 

Last year, add Cruse to the above at 6'5" and that is a big team.

 

There is enough size and talent in the school to win 10 games a year and that did not happen last year and likely will not this year.

I thought the Freshman Fieger did a great job last night. He has a bright future the next few years.

Why is McKenzie not playing?

McKenzie is out for academic issues.

McKenzie is out for academic issues.

 

WOW. Has to be laziness. His older bro is a top-notch scholar.

Miller didn't move Beechwood up. Shumate did just before he left.

 

I look at performance on the court and results. Beechwood had good results and performances with 3 different coaches over the past 10+ years. The results last year and so far this year are very disappointing. If Shumate were still coaching and playing the same schedule, Beechwood would not lose by 30 points to every good team they play. They would win more than 10 games in a season against the schedule they are currently playing.

 

There are no obstacles at Beechwood and that statement is very far off base. Every coach at Beechwood knows it is a small school and kids need to be "shared". Coach Rash and everyone else in athletics encourage kids to play other sports and get involved in other activities.

 

Beechwood has enough talent to be competitive.

 

Neither Shumate or Miller moved them up. The administration did ! Moving up was discussed and pushed by multiple former coaches in the past only to be turned down. Beechwood wanted to stay in D3 and only play one time per year . The other teams in D3 were not in favor of this.. There are financial benefits for this move as. I think anyone can figure those out.

 

Comparing the last 2 years at Beechwood to any of the previous 50 is not a fair comparison.

Shumate lost games by plenty in the past.

Shumate endorsed Miller for the job.

 

There are no obstacles at Beechwood and that statement is very far off base. Every coach at Beechwood knows it is a small school and kids need to be "shared". Coach Rash and everyone else in athletics encourage kids to play other sports and get involved in other activities.

 

That makes me laugh out loud. Sure the head coach is going to do what is politically correct. But there are ways to put pressure on kids to focus on football without coming out and saying it. Been going on at Beechwood for 30 + years. There is no coach on any staff at Beechwood that understands the sharing of players better than Miller. I guess everyone forgot the fact he was player of the year in FOOTBALL (NKY) at Beechwood his senior year in HS and has 5 State title rings as player and a coach.

 

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Whether Becechwood played bad or not, HC I feel is the out right better team.

WOW. Has to be laziness. His older bro is a top-notch scholar.

 

Really? Siblings can't have different talent levels or skill sets?

Beechwood is also missing the services of senior Gage Erdman who decided to concentrate on football/work and not basketball.

Gage is a great athlete and could contribute to the tigers like Pauly does for Cov Cath..... very similar players.

Neither Shumate or Miller moved them up. The administration did ! Moving up was discussed and pushed by multiple former coaches in the past only to be turned down. Beechwood wanted to stay in D3 and only play one time per year . The other teams in D3 were not in favor of this.. There are financial benefits for this move as. I think anyone can figure those out.

 

Comparing the last 2 years at Beechwood to any of the previous 50 is not a fair comparison.

Shumate lost games by plenty in the past.

Shumate endorsed Miller for the job.

 

There are no obstacles at Beechwood and that statement is very far off base. Every coach at Beechwood knows it is a small school and kids need to be "shared". Coach Rash and everyone else in athletics encourage kids to play other sports and get involved in other activities.

 

That makes me laugh out loud. Sure the head coach is going to do what is politically correct. But there are ways to put pressure on kids to focus on football without coming out and saying it. Been going on at Beechwood for 30 + years. There is no coach on any staff at Beechwood that understands the sharing of players better than Miller. I guess everyone forgot the fact he was player of the year in FOOTBALL (NKY) at Beechwood his senior year in HS and has 5 State title rings as player and a coach.

 

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5 state title rings as a player and a coach, I presume in football, doesnt make you a good head coach. As an outside observer It is my opinion that all you have to do is watch the body language of the kids when they are in the huddle during a time out. It shows me a lack of respect for what he is doing. I dont know coach Miller from the man on the moon, but if the kids dont respect you, it is hard to convey your message.

Beechwood does do a good job of sharing players, it just seems as though basketball typically loses out to football and baseball. I dont know what the answer is, but I am sure getting beat like a drum on most nights makes it tough to stomach.

There are no obstacles at Beechwood and that statement is very far off base. Every coach at Beechwood knows it is a small school and kids need to be "shared". Coach Rash and everyone else in athletics encourage kids to play other sports and get involved in other activities.

 

That makes me laugh out loud. Sure the head coach is going to do what is politically correct. But there are ways to put pressure on kids to focus on football without coming out and saying it. Been going on at Beechwood for 30 + years. There is no coach on any staff at Beechwood that understands the sharing of players better than Miller. I guess everyone forgot the fact he was player of the year in FOOTBALL (NKY) at Beechwood his senior year in HS and has 5 State title rings as player and a coach.

 

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If you thought I was inferring Miller isn't willing to share athletes or was putting pressure on kids to not play other sports, that is not what I was saying. If you are saying the current football coaches put pressure on kids to not play other sports, you are wrong.

If you thought I was inferring Miller isn't willing to share athletes or was putting pressure on kids to not play other sports, that is not what I was saying. If you are saying the current football coaches put pressure on kids to not play other sports, you are wrong.

 

Don't kid yourself ! For a coach to come out and demand for there sport would be professional/career suicide at Beechwood. There are other ways to do it. Peer pressure being # 1. Trust me I lived it !

Don't kid yourself ! For a coach to come out and demand for there sport would be professional/career suicide at Beechwood. There are other ways to do it. Peer pressure being # 1. Trust me I lived it !

 

I have never heard of any pressure being applied to play football and NOT play other sports. I have heard of the football coaches ENCOURAGING players to play other sports. There are football players playing the other sports at Beechwood every year. How many football players are playing basketball right now at Beechwood? Check the rosters and you will see a pretty good number. If someone is trying to pressure kids to not play they aren't very good at it. Bottom line, there are no "obstacles" within Beechwood athletics that prevent a coach from having success.

I have never heard of any pressure being applied to play football and NOT play other sports. I have heard of the football coaches ENCOURAGING players to play other sports. There are football players playing the other sports at Beechwood every year. How many football players are playing basketball right now at Beechwood? Check the rosters and you will see a pretty good number. If someone is trying to pressure kids to not play they aren't very good at it. Bottom line, there are no "obstacles" within Beechwood athletics that prevent a coach from having success.

 

Your missing my point. The coaches do not have to directly say anything. I think it happens to a degree at ALL "Football" schools. Large and small. Beechwood and others. Again , I experienced it first hand. The culture at Beechwood has been the same at Beechwood since the mid 70's ( football is king and its cool to play football). Culture is one of the most difficult things to change in humans. It takes time. Miller has 1.5 years at the helm and has about a zero percent chance of being removed and has plenty of supporters.

How many times have we seen Coach Rash at BB games ?

How many times have we seen Miller at Football games ?

That may be an indicator of support ? Just my humble opinion.

Also, since 2007. Beechwood has had 55 of 72 wins against NKY D3 teams (.267 win % against everyone else and many of those were against smaller/bad programs from around the state. I can't really remember a signature win in quite some time ? Beat CCH 2x a few years back but that was during the worst year they have had in decades. Sure the record does not indicate success but it takes time to build a program. Ask Bernie Barre. There were plenty of years that Bechwood was not very good in football. Answer me this too.......what is the difference in getting drilled in football or getting drilled in BB. What was the last signature win for Beechwood football ?

 

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