What guns?

Holder: executive actions to be considered on gun violence - Yahoo! News

 

"The Obama administration will consider executive actions and specific proposals for legislation as part of its gun policy response to the school massacre in Newtown, Connecticut, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said on Wednesday."

 

Emphasis added.

Question is 'background check' at time of purchase the same as 'registered'?

 

Does Kentucky currently require any guns to be 'registered' on an ongoing basis outside of automatics and other federally controlled firearms?

 

I know that states like Michigan require all handguns to be registered. To simply legally possess the firearm it must be in the state database. But does Kentucky do anything similar?

 

If not, what defines 'registered' in our state?

 

If you have a CCL does it list the actual firearms you own? Do you have to keep it up?

See post 28.

 

I guess you have to draw your own conclusions on this one. IMO any gun that has a paper trail, or can be traced to you by any prior means would qualify as "registered" for the purposes of the original question.

 

On the CCL questions, I don't think that alone would tie you to any particular gun. When you take the CCL qualifying test, do they record the SN of the weapon you use? If so, then that one may be traceable to you and thus fall in the "registered" category for this discussion.

See post 28.

 

I guess you have to draw your own conclusions on this one. IMO any gun that has a paper trail, or can be traced to you by any prior means would qualify as "registered" for the purposes of the original question.

 

On the CCL questions, I don't think that alone would tie you to any particular gun. When you take the CCL qualifying test, do they record the SN of the weapon you use? If so, then that one may be traceable to you and thus fall in the "registered" category for this discussion.

 

Well, its a paper trail but a fairly terse one that would become stale after a while, especially with the 'enthusiasts' who trade guns or sell them frequently.

 

I am not sure if the 'must register' states if you have re-up your registration periodically. If not the same issue occurs.

See post 28.

 

On the CCL questions, I don't think that alone would tie you to any particular gun. When you take the CCL qualifying test, do they record the SN of the weapon you use? If so, then that one may be traceable to you and thus fall in the "registered" category for this discussion.

They do not record what weapon you use during your CCL training.

Question is 'background check' at time of purchase the same as 'registered'?

 

Does Kentucky currently require any guns to be 'registered' on an ongoing basis outside of automatics and other federally controlled firearms?

 

I know that states like Michigan require all handguns to be registered. To simply legally possess the firearm it must be in the state database. But does Kentucky do anything similar?

 

If not, what defines 'registered' in our state?

 

If you have a CCL does it list the actual firearms you own? Do you have to keep it up?

 

I do not know the law in Kentucky. In Florida, the state law requires all guns, sold by dealers must be registered and hand guns require a 3 day waiting period to pass before you can obtain the weapon. In Hillsborough and Pinellas counties, where I live, all weapons require the 3 day waiting period. You must retain your registration paperwork. If you have a Florida CWP, the 3 day waiting period is waived for any weapon.

The only registry in Kentucky is on the paper copy of the 4473 filled out when you purchase a gun from a licensed dealer. If a crime is committed with a gun the ATF will trace a recovered gun to the manufacturer who will give them the name of the dealer the gun was sold to and then they will go to that dealer and sort through all of the 4473's to see who purchased the firearm originally.

 

When the NICs background check is completed no information on the gun is given to the FBI, only the personal information on the purchaser required for the background checks.

FWIW there was a gun show in Somerset this weekend, biggest crowd in the history of the event (3-4 times a year for past 10 years at least). ARs were selling at crazy prices...a Sig AR sold for $1900 this weekend, could have been bought his for $900 1 months ago at Walmart or $1050 at others. Some ARs were priced at well over $2000. All local gun stores (not pawn shops) have sold out in the last 3-4 days. 5.56 ammo and magazines are getting very scarce...what you can find is in some cases 3 times higher than 2 months ago.

There is a gun show in Chantilly, VA after Christmas. I went to the last one, but will not be able to make it this time. From what I hear, this one will be huge.

Seems Ted Nugget has voted....

 

A little salty language...

 

Ted Nugent to Piers Morgan: "Suck On My Machine Gun!" - YouTube

 

Interesting number dropped in-between the bantering.

 

96% of gun crimes are done by convicted criminals. First time I had heard that.