I'm sure he don't want lives lost but welcomes the distraction from the news the hurricane is bringing.

 

You can't "welcome the distraction" and not welcome the deaths and destruction.

You can't "welcome the distraction" and not welcome the deaths and destruction.

 

Well then it is what it is. I doubt it will be hundreds of deaths but deaths from the hurricane are no different from the deaths in Libya and he doesn't seem too concerned about doing anything about that.

I'm sure Obama will be in the swing states on east coast dishing out support and promises of change and hope, and reminding them of the horrible treatment some got from Katrina and blame republicans for that.

I wonder if Ellen Barkin hopes the pro lifers all drown this time too.

Not so sure lives are a big priority for this administration.

OK. Then, why was he so disconnected from the intel? Again, who took the call? Who made the decisions? Why was the president so uninformed about what was happening in Libya? I just feel this was really fumbled by the administration.

 

Do not disagree at all...It looks like the 5 p.m. meeting was likely when he and Biden and Sec of Defense Panetta were all together reviewing the situation....

Interview with Obama by Denver reporter starts with Libya and moves other sensitive subjects.

 

WEB EXTRA: Full Obama interview | Video | 9news.com

Arms being smuggled out of Libya. Well known problem. And it was Al-Quada.

 

KUNA : Arms smuggling from Libya threatens Africa - Africom commander - Military and Security - 23/04/2012

 

"TUNIS, April 23 (KUNA) -- Commander of the US Africa Command (Africom) General Carter Ham warned here Monday against a real danger in the African continent resulted from smuggling of large quantities of weapons out of Libya.

 

General Ham, at a news conference at the US Embassy in Tunis, said the smuggling of weapons has been rising since the spark of the revolution in Libya.

Solving this problem, which he described as real danger, could materialize through collaboration of regional and international efforts.

 

Ham said terrorist organizations, namely Al-Qaeda, were posing a threat to security and stability in Africa particularly with regards to events in Mali and Guinea-Bssau coupled with weapons' smuggling from Libya."

Not so sure lives are a big priority for this administration.

 

Easily the most asinine statement you have made.

Easily the most asinine statement you have made.

 

The president's stance on radical abortions speaks for itself.

The president's stance on radical abortions speaks for itself.

 

I am sure I know where you are going but I will wait while you back up the claim.

Apparently Gen. Ham has been fired. Possibly for dispatching assets to Benghazi in defiance of orders from Sec. of Defense.

 

Blog: Has General Ham Been Fired?

 

Benghazigate: General Ham: “No Order to Protect Consulate” (VIDEO)

 

 

"General Ham told Chaffetz that the forces were available, but that no order to use them was given. Defense Secretary Panetta had claimed that the refusal to use force had come from him, General Dempsey and General Ham.

 

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General Ham appears to have broken with that story and is taking no responsibility for the decision not to bail out the consulate and the Navy SEALS.

 

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Ham’s premature departure raises certain questions, as does his willingness to dissent from the official story. Panetta tried to pass the buck to the generals. "

 

 

Messages were sent via flash traffic from the consulate. That means immediate notification to many people. There were 3 request for support - all denied. The ex-SEALS were designating targets for ordinance that was overhead but never came. For that action they were probably killed by well trained militants who were basically expert with mortars.

 

What what was going on?

I am sure I know where you are going but I will wait while you back up the claim.

 

Obama supported a law to withhold life support to a baby born alive during a botch abortion. That is a well known fact.

Obama supported a law to withhold life support to a baby born alive during a botch abortion. That is a well known fact.

 

Apparently what's not a well-known fact is the story behind it.

 

Let me ask you this. You're a congressman. A bill comes to you that will make abortion illegal (a really big deal to you let's say) BUT the bill contains language that considers blacks not to be part of the covered fetuses ie black people can have abortions because they're considered to be lesser than others. You obviously vote against it.

 

Should I assume then that you are pro-abortion?

Apparently what's not a well-known fact is the story behind it.

 

Let me ask you this. You're a congressman. A bill comes to you that will make abortion illegal (a really big deal to you let's say) BUT the bill contains language that considers blacks not to be part of the covered fetuses ie black people can have abortions because they're considered to be lesser than others. You obviously vote against it.

 

Should I assume then that you are pro-abortion?

 

I do not see how the words 'pro-abortion' make sense to anyone. I hate the whole issue but believe mostly in the statement - they should be legal, safe and rare...

 

Back on subject.

 

Real time feeds from Benghazi, flash traffic communications sent from the Ambassador (flash traffic communications not get lost in the 'noise' as claimed by the administration), ex-SEALS in a CIA safehouse (likely working for CIA) requesting support 3 times, they expose themselves by using laser designators to direct laser guided munitions from assets that are overhead - likely armed drones. They are killed with very accurate mortar fire from 'the mob angry about a youtube video'. Now Generals who were in the chain of command of the events are being relieved without hearings, without findings, without anything except they will not go on the record and be blamed for not taking action.

 

As Valerie Jarrett was screaming in the WH after there a non-reversible go on bin Ladin that she did not agree with - "CoC", CoC". Chain of Command. With flash traffic going out requesting help many organizations would have seen it simultaneously. Gen Ham apparently started reacting to get assets in place or on station. And apparently assets were in place since the ex-SEALS were actively designating targets - thus exposing their position. They would not have done that without assets in position to engage with laser guided munitions. Apparently a stand down order then came from Washington from the top of the "Chain of Command".