My guess is the scouts haven't seen him much which should change with a strong playoff run. As to best player in NKY I'm sure there would be lots of dissenting opinions. NKY has a few who would be in the conversation.

 

Well, there was at least one scout at our game last night (UTMartin); he was there to watch a couple of our receivers/db's. I KNOW that by the end of it he had to be impressed with Durham. They sling the ball all over the field.

 

As I knew going in, he was a huge match-up problem for us -- as he would be for any team. The difference this year is we saw he could throw it better than last year and his receivers do a MUCH better job running routes. Get him in a good 1AA program that throws it a lot but also has a way for the QB to hurt you with power running, qb draws, etc. and (in my humble opinion) he should take a shot at QB at the next level and not TE (unless that's what he really wants to do). ...and I told him as much after the game.

 

I really hope this kid can stay healthy throughout the playoffs running as much as he needs to run (and I'd let him run about 30 times a game). Campbell is a beast of a team to prepare for -- and their coaching staff saw instantly what to do when we made an adjustment to stop Durham. It took us having to make a 2nd adjustment to get to where we could get a stop or two on their last two drives that allowed us to win.

 

Good luck to both Campbell, Lickert, AND T. Durham. I'm a big fan of people who do football the right way...and this group definitely is.

What are college's looking for?

 

1. Height + Speed (take one away and you become one of thousands upon thousands of kids who have one or the other).

 

a. Height - It should be noted that most High School 6'4's are really 6'2's in reality, most 5'10's are 5'7's. Colleges normally want to kids who are considerably taller than most everyone they are around.

 

b. Speed - Real speed is rare. Quickness is not speed. The number of true 4.5 guys playing football that are 6'0 + in the state of KY can probably be counted on one man's hands.

What are college's looking for?

 

1. Height + Speed (take one away and you become one of thousands upon thousands of kids who have one or the other).

 

a. Height - It should be noted that most High School 6'4's are really 6'2's in reality, most 5'10's are 5'7's. Colleges normally want to kids who are considerably taller than most everyone they are around.

 

b. Speed - Real speed is rare. Quickness is not speed. The number of true 4.5 guys playing football that are 6'0 + in the state of KY can probably be counted on one man's hands.

 

Are you saying this is what they're looking for at the QB position?

It's just not that easy to get a D1 offer. Being average speed or size at the high school level, means you're way behind the curve at the D1 level, no matter how great you were in high school. And if you look at the number of walk-ons that eventually make it, most of the time, the recruiters are right. Something like 1.5% of all high school football players get a D1 offer. Assuming all schollies are given (which not all schools give out their max amount), there's only a little over 4200 scholarships available at the D1-D1AA level. With so little room for error, no coach is going to take a flier on a kid that may be a great player, but is missing something (be it speed, size, whatever)

You are a class act and run a classy program. I hope Ballard and CC continue the series. Your players made a great impression last year at our place taking the time to shake the hand of the young man hurt in an accident that was the honorary captain that night. Wishing you the best in the remainder of your season.

Well, there was at least one scout at our game last night (UTMartin); he was there to watch a couple of our receivers/db's. I KNOW that by the end of it he had to be impressed with Durham. They sling the ball all over the field.

 

As I knew going in, he was a huge match-up problem for us -- as he would be for any team. The difference this year is we saw he could throw it better than last year and his receivers do a MUCH better job running routes. Get him in a good 1AA program that throws it a lot but also has a way for the QB to hurt you with power running, qb draws, etc. and (in my humble opinion) he should take a shot at QB at the next level and not TE (unless that's what he really wants to do). ...and I told him as much after the game.

 

 

I really hope this kid can stay healthy throughout the playoffs running as much as he needs to run (and I'd let him run about 30 times a game). Campbell is a beast of a team to prepare for -- and their coaching staff saw instantly what to do when we made an adjustment to stop Durham. It took us having to make a 2nd adjustment to get to where we could get a stop or two on their last two drives that allowed us to win.

 

Good luck to both Campbell, Lickert, AND T. Durham. I'm a big fan of people who do football the right way...and this group definitely is.

 

You are a class act and run a classy program. I hope Ballard and CC continue the series. Your players made a great impression last year at our place taking the time to shake the hand of the young man hurt in an accident that was the honorary captain that night. Wishing you the best in the remainder of your season.

Are you saying this is what they're looking for at the QB position?

 

No, that's more of a generalization of what they're looking for holistically...when it comes to QB's I would say it's a coin flip what college's want. QB's are tough to recruit but from what I can tell they're looking for:

 

1. Height....No 6 footers need apply for DIA anymore. 6'2 seems to be on the short end of things these days for QB's.

 

2. Arm Strength...not "deep ball bomb throwing" arm strength but "15 yard out to the wide side of the field on a frozen rope" arm strength. Most good QB's can throw the 40-50 yard deep ball, but few can make the really tough throws.

 

3. Quick release - In today's game of screens and quick routes, the ability to catch the snap and throw the ball almost instantaneously is paramount. Most QB's can't do this very well.

Hard to believe Durham hasn't at least gotten offers from D II, III or a NAIA school. I know there are at least 4 SK seniors that are getting visits/offers and when they played be was clearly the best on the field that game.

If you are UK you are looking for guys not good enough to play at other SEC schools who will then underachieve in college.

I think the question is not completely about Tyler Durham, but more how many kids are passed by because of an inch or a 10th of a second. College coaches miss the boat on kids because rather than look at actual playing ability, they look at combine scores. I have never seen a bench press on a football field. I do not think the combine results should be completely overlooked and I can see where a5'11" kid can be passed over, but not a 6'3" kid.

Division 1 schools are looking for those that fit 'the D1 template'.

 

Google this:

 

ncsa SportsSpecificRecruitingGuide1.pdf

 

On page 28 is the D1 'template' requirements.

 

All the positions indicated 6'0" (RBs) or more in height. 4.7 or less 40 except OL (5.1) and various bench and squat combine numbers.

 

Grades count - even for solid athletes!

 

Getting formal combine numbers help - NUC, etc. Getting noticed in Rivals helps.

 

Need to have video out there. Varsity only. Youtube works fine for this. 4-6 minutes.

 

Need to be registered to the NCAA clearinghouse. Get ACT and SAT scores and transcripts loaded there.

 

And finally the D1s will require the perspective athlete to attend their 1-day camp between their junior and senior year. No matter who you are this is a must.

 

Athletes can always reach and send emails, DVDs, etc. to coaches to market themselves. Some schools now have online contact forms to help.

 

I think its around 120 D1 football schools with around 45 scholarships each. Divided by 4 and that means each has around 15 new scholarships each year, that means that their are around 1,800 D1 football scholarships available each year. Lets divide that by about 5 position groups and you get 360. Divide that by 50 states and you get around 7. Kentucky is a small state so lets cut that in half again. The question then boils down to are you one of the top 3 or 4 at your position in the state. If so, D1 is something to look at. If not, there are lots and lots of opportunities at DII and NAIA levels.

 

Good luck to anyone who wants to play at the next level. But D1 is an elite level. And there are lots of opportunities beyond D1 that should always be evaluated.

No, that's more of a generalization of what they're looking for holistically...when it comes to QB's I would say it's a coin flip what college's want. QB's are tough to recruit but from what I can tell they're looking for:

 

1. Height....No 6 footers need apply for DIA anymore. 6'2 seems to be on the short end of things these days for QB's.

 

2. Arm Strength...not "deep ball bomb throwing" arm strength but "15 yard out to the wide side of the field on a frozen rope" arm strength. Most good QB's can throw the 40-50 yard deep ball, but few can make the really tough throws.

 

3. Quick release - In today's game of screens and quick routes, the ability to catch the snap and throw the ball almost instantaneously is paramount. Most QB's can't do this very well.

 

Agree completely on the QB traits.

Hard to believe Durham hasn't at least gotten offers from D II, III or a NAIA school. I know there are at least 4 SK seniors that are getting visits/offers and when they played be was clearly the best on the field that game.

 

What SK kids are getting offers and to where?

I think the question is not completely about Tyler Durham, but more how many kids are passed by because of an inch or a 10th of a second. College coaches miss the boat on kids because rather than look at actual playing ability, they look at combine scores. I have never seen a bench press on a football field. I do not think the combine results should be completely overlooked and I can see where a5'11" kid can be passed over, but not a 6'3" kid.

 

Isn't Tyler 6'4 220 or so?

 

And finally the D1s will require the perspective athlete to attend their 1-day camp between their junior and senior year. No matter who you are this is a must.

 

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We're seeing a lot of the D1 kids with offers (and sometimes decisions) before the end of their junior year.