August 8, 201214 yr It showing up on a blog doesnt have the impact of it showing up in a tv commercial. Would it be unfair to advertise such an association? Huffington post is a little bit more than a blog. Unfair? If true I don't think so although I seem to recall some true associations of Obama's in 2008 that people felt were unfair to bring up. What do you think? What's fair and what isn't? Is it fair for Romney now to use the original ad from this thread to point out the dishonesty in the ad and tie that to Obama's honesty?
August 8, 201214 yr Author Apparently the wife of the steelworker in the ad I posted still had job and health insurance after he lost his. The ad doubled down on sleazy.
August 8, 201214 yr Author Here's a CNN story about it. That's were I heard she still had insurance. :thumb:
August 8, 201214 yr Huffington post is a little bit more than a blog. Unfair? If true I don't think so although I seem to recall some true associations of Obama's in 2008 that people felt were unfair to bring up. What do you think? What's fair and what isn't? Is it fair for Romney now to use the original ad from this thread to point out the dishonesty in the ad and tie that to Obama's honesty? HuffPo is a big blog but it's still not retaining viewers like TV will. What's fair? Obviously, that's a tough one. I think associations are a fair issue. Candidate Obama certainly had to live down his associations with Rev and the radical. Associations are part of the equation. I do have a bit of a concern about the report of Bain's involvement with reputed death squads. I think most would. Yes, it would be fair for Mr Romney to show the problem with the ad as long as he's ready to have the same done to his ads.
August 8, 201214 yr Apparently the wife of the steelworker in the ad I posted still had job and health insurance after he lost his. The ad doubled down on sleazy. Who bears responsibility for this ad?
August 8, 201214 yr I thought that the death squads worked in the new healthcare system... They do. They're called abortion providers (over a million a year)
August 8, 201214 yr Author Who bears responsibility for this ad?The pro-Obama super PAC, Priorities USA Action. So you can understand just how sleazy this is, I offer this: Bill Burton, Priorities USA Action's senior strategist, told The Huffington Post that the ad, released Tuesday, has been "wildly successful" in sparking a conversation around the long-term impact Romney has had on middle-class communities across America. "The truth is, there are a lot of sad stories that came as a result of what happened when Mitt Romney was in business," Burton said. "I don't think those stories should be off limits because they're particularly heartbreaking." The implication is clear: Had Romney's firm not put Soptic out of his job, he would have been able to provide health care coverage for his wife, who hid the extent of her illness as a result of their financial struggles, according to Soptic. Since the ad was launched, a number of reports have called into question its accuracy, pointing out that Soptic's wife actually died in 2006 -- years after the GST Steel plant was shut down. Furthermore, Soptic's wife had her own employee-sponsored health insurance, whereas his policy through GST Steel was actually her secondary coverage. An injury forced Soptic's wife out of her own job, thus leaving her without health insurance. But Burton remains unfazed, telling HuffPost he doesn't believe those details change the ad's overall message, or the fact that Soptic was ultimately unable to provide health care coverage for his wife when she needed it the most. "While Republicans want to get caught up in timelines and the sad details of this situation, the truth is Joe's wife didn't have health insurance," he said. "And that had an impact on their lives." Not a source I like, but a lot of you guys and gals seem to. Here's the link.
August 9, 201214 yr I heard a conversation that claimed that the steel plant had been targeted to close if Bain had not bought it several years earlier. The host was saying Bain kept it running for several years until 2001. Kind of changes things if true, doesn't it?
August 9, 201214 yr Anyone who decides who to vote for based on a 30 second ad, gets what they deserve. And thus we have the President we have.
August 9, 201214 yr Author I heard a conversation that claimed that the steel plant had been targeted to close if Bain had not bought it several years earlier. The host was saying Bain kept it running for several years until 2001. Kind of changes things if true, doesn't it?Indeed! But I doubt we'll hear any apologies.
August 9, 201214 yr Obama camp denies knowledge of story but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Obama camp denies knowledge of cancer tale it told in May | The Ticket - Yahoo! News
August 9, 201214 yr I heard a conversation that claimed that the steel plant had been targeted to close if Bain had not bought it several years earlier. The host was saying Bain kept it running for several years until 2001. Kind of changes things if true, doesn't it? That sounds like standard MO for a venture capital firm. They buy struggling companies who are in a viable and growing markets, install their own high level management team and starting fixing the company. After a few years they usually try to take the company public to re-coup their investment in the original purchase. One of Lexington's major companies is an example of this.
August 9, 201214 yr Obama camp denies knowledge of story but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Obama camp denies knowledge of cancer tale it told in May | The Ticket - Yahoo! News :lol::lol:
August 9, 201214 yr Obama camp denies knowledge of story but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Obama camp denies knowledge of cancer tale it told in May | The Ticket - Yahoo! News :laugh:
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