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Scrimmage scouting ethics?

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Did it happen at a "normal" practice? Or, was it like an intersquad scrimmage (meet the team kind of event)?

 

Normal practice. Once the guy was "discovered", he took off in his car. Pathetic.

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Normal practice. Once the guy was "discovered", he took off in his car. Pathetic.

Yep. Bush league.

I actually had a well-intentioned parent one time tell me he'd be driving past one of our opponents known to allow community people in to watch practice and wouldn't mind posing as a fan there to get me some information. I politely told him we already had all we needed from film and that doing such a thing wouldn't be very professional for me. He basically said, aw shucks, coach...everybody 'round here does that kinda stuff.

Aren't all practices open? I know I can go to CCH or Conner and see a practice. Don't all teams have parents and others in the stands watching?

Aren't all practices open? I know I can go to CCH or Conner and see a practice. Don't all teams have parents and others in the stands watching?

 

All Kenton Co practices are supposed to be closed to the public by county policy. Now its up to each school to truly enforce that.

I want to know where everyone stands on this issue. How do you feel about coaches from opposing teams secretly scouting their scrimmage opponents?

 

Doesn't matter it is a scrimmage?

 

Ethically wrong?

 

Something else?

 

Let me say I think it is dumbest thing I ever heard of. Why? If you call the coach and ask what they are doing on defense and offense they will tell you.

 

Not sure the point behind it. Scrimmage is about getting better. Not winning.

All Kenton Co practices are supposed to be closed to the public by county policy. Now its up to each school to truly enforce that.

 

I bet it's not enforced.

Aren't all practices open? I know I can go to CCH or Conner and see a practice. Don't all teams have parents and others in the stands watching?

 

I think it depends on the way it's handled Clyde. When the coaches of said team know that a coach is doing it on the sly in an "underhanded" manner and catch him, then he leaves once discovered is not ethical at all. Seems a bit slimy to me.

I bet it's not enforced.

 

Is at our school, parents aren't even allowed in the building during practices. Now outside, gets a little fuzzy, they have to stay away from the practice area, can they see the practice, yes, but from a distance.

If anybody was scouting the Trinity and Highlands scrimmage last year were not getting much information.The Birds only threw the ball two times and that was late in the 4th quarter. With a D1 QB (Towles) and a D1 WR (Sheehan), the Birds were working on the running game, it was obvious. The Birds had several players on the O line that were not playing due to injury. That could be the reason for not throwing the ball, to give other O lineman the experience, or to give starting O line players more time to heal. If someone was scouting that scrimmage, they went back to their team and said Highlands will run the ball 90% of the time. I'm sure that scout looked foolish, after Sheehan caught those 50 and 60 yard bombs during the regular season, on a regular basis.

If anybody was scouting the Trinity and Highlands scrimmage last year were not getting much information.The Birds only threw the ball two times and that was late in the 4th quarter. With a D1 QB (Towles) and a D1 WR (Sheehan), the Birds were working on the running game, it was obvious. The Birds had several players on the O line that were not playing due to injury. That could be the reason for not throwing the ball, to give other O lineman the experience, or to give starting O line players more time to heal. If someone was scouting that scrimmage, they went back to their team and said Highlands will run the ball 90% of the time. I'm sure that scout looked foolish, after Sheehan caught those 50 and 60 yard bombs during the regular season, on a regular basis.

 

Thread is not about scouting a scrimmage. It's about scouting a private practice of a team you are getting ready to scrimmage.

Thread is not about scouting a scrimmage. It's about scouting a private practice of a team you are getting ready to scrimmage.

 

Ok, thanks.

I was very surprised to hear that Beechwood would resort to spying on Conner practicing. Is winning a scrimmage that important? I hope the coaching staff at Conner has the boys ready on Friday. After learning about Spygate II the Conner/Beechwood scrimmage is where I really wish I could be this Friday.

 

I know it's just a scrimmage but good luck anyways Conner!!!

Let me say I think it is dumbest thing I ever heard of. Why? If you call the coach and ask what they are doing on defense and offense they will tell you.

 

Not sure the point behind it. Scrimmage is about getting better. Not winning.

 

 

^^ This.

 

I've NEVER gone into a scrimmage with a team with a new coach or someone we hadn't played before who did not tell me exactly what kind of offense/defense they ran. For games after all, we all willingly exchange at least 2 previous games with each other.

 

And I agree with the earlier post about giving the other team your playbook. Andrew Coverdale presents at every clinic he can in the winter, he writes books about his offensive approach (including detailed diagrams and blocking rules), and you can even download the whole Trinity playbook on scribD. Doesn't mean you know WHAT he's going to call when he calls it.

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you can even download the whole Trinity playbook on scribD. Doesn't mean you know WHAT he's going to call when he calls it.

 

And even if you did know with all that talent you ain't gonna stop it! :D

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