The discussion is about allowing cellphone use in the classroom for educational purposes on a wireless signal provided the school. Teachers are concerned if they are allowed then students will use them for other things. Others say they'll be used regardless whether they are allowed in the classroom for educational purposes or not. The analogy TOG brings up isn't a good one because that is a completely different scenario than the one being discussed.

 

I think that his point is a very good one. The scenarios are related. Basketball or football practice is about teaching, practicing skills and reinforcement. I bet that no coach worth his/her salt allows his/her players to use their cellphones during practice. Further, I predict that few parents text their kids during practice expecting an immediate response, unlike evidently some do in the classroom. Why is that? Well, because coaches know that distractions hinder their teaching and the student/player's learning. For some reason, some parents put more value in their child's athletic endeavors than their academic ones, so they wouldn't for a minute think about disrupting their child's practice, but their algebra or english class is fair game.

The discussion is about allowing cellphone use in the classroom for educational purposes on a wireless signal provided the school. Teachers are concerned if they are allowed then students will use them for other things. Others say they'll be used regardless whether they are allowed in the classroom for educational purposes or not. The analogy TOG brings up isn't a good one because that is a completely different scenario than the one being discussed.

 

Wrong, PurplePride92. The scenario is a little different, but directly related.

 

The question is whether the presence of cellphones generally distract from the teaching in the classroom. Surely athletic coaches are not so biased to think that the Internet is only good for "academic material/information", but not for "athletic material/information>

Anybody else being brought to page 2 instead of page 3? I have to post just to see recent posts on page 3. This thread only.

Anybody else being brought to page 2 instead of page 3? I have to post just to see recent posts on page 3. This thread only.

 

Working fine for me.....maybe you were on your cellphone when the teacher was talking about how to use this forum!!!

 

Sorry, could not resist!!:thumb::thumb:

I think that his point is a very good one. The scenarios are related. Basketball or football practice is about teaching, practicing skills and reinforcement. I bet that no coach worth his/her salt allows his/her players to use their cellphones during practice. Further, I predict that few parents text their kids during practice expecting an immediate response, unlike evidently some do in the classroom. Why is that? Well, because coaches know that distractions hinder their teaching and the student/player's learning. For some reason, some parents put more value in their child's athletic endeavors than their academic ones, so they wouldn't for a minute think about disrupting their child's practice, but their algebra or english class is fair game.

 

I'd text him during practice if he could hold his phone and ball at the same time. No pockets in his basketball shorts. It isn't physically possible to do both. Maybe teacher's should make kids do physical activities during class while learning so it will become physically impossible to use their phones during class time.

 

However, same rules apply. The kid who gets caught by coach with his phone will get kicked out of practice or won't get to play much if at all. The kid who gets caught in class or who spends all of his class time on the phone will make bad grades and will suffer the consequences of not paying attention in class.

 

I have texted my son when I knew they were watching film. Does that count?

Wrong, PurplePride92. The scenario is a little different, but directly related.

 

The question is whether the presence of cellphones generally distract from the teaching in the classroom. Surely athletic coaches are not so biased to think that the Internet is only good for "academic material/information", but not for "athletic material/information>

 

And I say they wouldn't distract from teaching in the classroom if they were allowed to be used as educational devices. I have said that the whole thread. My opinion is the same for coaches. If coaches wanted to use cellphones or iPads as instructional tools then that'd be cool too.

Working fine for me.....maybe you were on your cellphone when the teacher was talking about how to use this forum!!!

 

Sorry, could not resist!!:thumb::thumb:

 

Yeah yeah yeah.

I haven't read all of the seven pages of this thread, so forgive me if I repeat anything that's already been said.

 

It's pretty simple for me. Allowing cell phones in class rooms, for any reason, is a bad idea. I know how much I had mine out when I was still in high school 8 years ago. Social media and technology in general is greatly more popular now than it was then, and I see absolutely no way to control what students do with the phones. I think I saw somebody mentioning using a network provided by the school with sites blocked... Good concept, except all smart phones are 3G or better, and you can't police or control what students browse on their phones that way. Sure some students will take advantage of the opportunity in the correct way, using them for educational tools. But I think it's naive to think that the majority of students wont abuse this privilege.

 

I do agree with the folks who were talking about students having their phones for emergency purposes. I think that idea has stemmed from so many mass shootings and what not through out the years. There again, I don't think parents should be freely texting their students during school hours expecting an immediate response. That is the parent "breaking the rules," and encouraging their student to inevitably disrupt class (if caught). I always had my phone on me in school, but never had it taken away because I kept it put away while in class. I think students will always have phones on their person, it's just the nature of society today. But "allowing" them for "educational purposes" I feel is going to cause a bigger problem than it's worth. You then have to decipher when to discipline the students and when not to in regards to cell phone usage, which is another obstacle for teachers.

 

Just my two cents.

Knowing that most in this forum are avid sport fans, I think Theoldguy makes a very good point that is being ignored.

 

I'll bet 99% of coaches would go nuts if a player used a cellphone on the bench during the game (i.e. the coaches classroom). Do all those who advocate using it during the academic classroom also advocate it use in the athletic classroom? I'll bet not......be honest!!

 

What would be the justification fir players having a phone on the bench?

Kids have used their cell phones in school for a while now. I know at the high school my little brother went to there was a no phone policy, but my facebook was always filled with high schoolers' status's all throughout the day. Might as well use the technology in a positive way because those students who are going to break the rules are the ones who were breaking the rule before they were allowed anyways.

Our policy in our school handbook:

1st time: pick up in the office

2nd time: parent has to pick it up

3rd time: extended day

4th time: saturday school

5th time and any time after: placed in Alternative School, 5 days then 10 days and it is 5 more days each time

 

At Newport Catholic, parents and students are given their ONLY warning at orientation. All devices must be turned off and are not to be used on premises between school hours. Any student caught with their electronic device on or on their person during school hours will have it confiscated.

 

1st offense: Locked in principals office for 2 weeks, ZERO EXCEPTIONS.

2nd offense: Locked in principals office....for the remainder of the school year, ZERO EXCEPTIONS.

 

Many have attained the 1st offense, and then realize they are not kidding. Needless to say no one has attained level 2.:lol:

At Newport Catholic, parents and students are given their ONLY warning at orientation. All devices must be turned off and are not to be used on premises between school hours. Any student caught with their electronic device on or on their person during school hours will have it confiscated.

 

1st offense: Locked in principals office for 2 weeks, ZERO EXCEPTIONS.

2nd offense: Locked in principals office....for the remainder of the school year, ZERO EXCEPTIONS.

 

Many have attained the 1st offense, and then realize they are not kidding. Needless to say no one has attained level 2.:lol:

 

Another example of how you solve the issue of distraction with severe penalties AND allow them to have them on them to use in the rare case of a serious threat.

 

Seems easy to me. I don't get any other argument.

Kids have used their cell phones in school for a while now. I know at the high school my little brother went to there was a no phone policy, but my facebook was always filled with high schoolers' status's all throughout the day. Might as well use the technology in a positive way because those students who are going to break the rules are the ones who were breaking the rule before they were allowed anyways.

 

Kids have used them because the punishment isn't severe enough. Simple problem to fix.

At Newport Catholic, parents and students are given their ONLY warning at orientation. All devices must be turned off and are not to be used on premises between school hours. Any student caught with their electronic device on or on their person during school hours will have it confiscated.

 

1st offense: Locked in principals office for 2 weeks, ZERO EXCEPTIONS.

2nd offense: Locked in principals office....for the remainder of the school year, ZERO EXCEPTIONS.

 

Many have attained the 1st offense, and then realize they are not kidding. Needless to say no one has attained level 2.:lol:

 

So if they can't have them on at school then why allow them at all.

So if they can't have them on at school then why allow them at all.

 

1. Kids are allowed to have them after school so they would obviously have to have them with them.

2. Emergencies.