August 5, 201214 yr What % of students get to a 3rd violation? 4th? I'd argue that the policy needs to much tougher from the very first violation. 3 days of no phone would seem to be a strong start. Why can't you implement something like that? Not that many now. Probably about 5% this past year but more like 10% the first year. THe first year we implemented this our A school was full but it has been much better. Letting them have it out at lunch has helped tremendously. I can't have something in my room that is not in the student's code of conduct handbook.
August 5, 201214 yr 12:45. I'm heading to bed. Moving my son into UK tomorrow. Don't take my lack of response as a lack of interest. My argument is simple. Harsh rules and 100% consistent enforcement of the rules is key.
August 5, 201214 yr Not that many now. Probably about 5% this past year but more like 10% the first year. THe first year we implemented this our A school was full but it has been much better. Letting them have it out at lunch has helped tremendously. I can't have something in my room that is not in the student's code of conduct handbook. If it's a big issue why wouldn't the school make stronger penalties?
August 5, 201214 yr My argument is simple. Harsh rules and 100% consistent enforcement of the rules is key. Without a doubt. But my argument is that if you let them have them out for other things they will abuse it by texting and looking at other website than the one they are supposed to be on.
August 5, 201214 yr If it's a big issue why wouldn't the school make stronger penalties? They did and that is why it has been much better.
August 5, 201214 yr Without a doubt. But my argument is that if you let them have them out for other things they will abuse it by texting and looking at other website than the one they are supposed to be on. Who said "other things?" I said the ONLY reason to have them out is in case of the rare emergency. I am completely against it for class usage.
August 5, 201214 yr What if an emergency happens during those 3 days? Unless the kid is in a one-person class he/she will have 29 other phones in the classroom.
August 5, 201214 yr They did and that is why it has been much better. Great to hear. Supports my contention.
August 5, 201214 yr Did the rule change also change the punishment? Did the punishment become more severe? Yes. I can't remember exactly what the punishment was previously, but now, on the first offense of the year, they pick it up in the office at the end of the next school day. On the second offense, they must wait a school calendar week. On the third offense, they pick it up at the end of the school year. This is a district-wide policy.
August 5, 201214 yr Yes. I can't remember exactly what the punishment was previously, but now, on the first offense of the year, they pick it up in the office at the end of the next school day. On the second offense, they must wait a school calendar week. On the third offense, they pick it up at the end of the school year. This is a district-wide policy. So tell me again what you think we disagree on. We agree they are great for dire emergencies. We agree they have no place outside of the pocket OTHER than #1 above. We agree that stronger punishments have an impact on the occurrences of problems. We agree that you the "hammer" teacher who enforces said stronger punishments has a great impact. So what do we disagree on again?
August 5, 201214 yr So tell me again what you think we disagree on. We agree they are great for dire emergencies. We agree they have no place outside of the pocket OTHER than #1 above. We agree that stronger punishments have an impact on the occurrences of problems. We agree that you the "hammer" teacher who enforces said stronger punishments has a great impact. So what do we disagree on again? I'm not sure. :lol:
August 5, 201214 yr I have had to carry a cell phone due to work 24/7 since 1993 and honestly I have never had to use it to call 911 in what I would call a life saving emergency, in fact, if I could turn mine off each night, life would be so much nicer..... TBG is correct, kids have a very hard time keeping focused, having a cell phone go off interrupts that focus..... BTW tell me please sir, when you were a strip in a Basketball game, did you stop, to answer your phone during the game? How many Coaches allow their players to keep their cell phones with them during a game even on the bench? PP92 you hate to be put on hold? How about the teacher hating your child and the rest of the students being bothered by your text to your child during class? Sorry but teaching kids is tough enough today, that living without a phone in your ear for a bit of time, hurts no one! Knowing that most in this forum are avid sport fans, I think Theoldguy makes a very good point that is being ignored. I'll bet 99% of coaches would go nuts if a player used a cellphone on the bench during the game (i.e. the coaches classroom). Do all those who advocate using it during the academic classroom also advocate it use in the athletic classroom? I'll bet not......be honest!!
August 5, 201214 yr Knowing that most in this forum are avid sport fans, I think Theoldguy makes a very good point that is being ignored. I'll bet 99% of coaches would go nuts if a player used a cellphone on the bench during the game (i.e. the coaches classroom). Do all those who advocate using it during the academic classroom also advocate it use in the athletic classroom? I'll bet not......be honest!! The discussion is about allowing cellphone use in the classroom for educational purposes on a wireless signal provided the school. Teachers are concerned if they are allowed then students will use them for other things. Others say they'll be used regardless whether they are allowed in the classroom for educational purposes or not. The analogy TOG brings up isn't a good one because that is a completely different scenario than the one being discussed.
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