August 5, 201214 yr Respectfully, PP92, none of those reasons are necessities worthy of disrupting his education. The average teenage boy has a hard enough time concentrating as it is. In this case, he's spending part of his time checking his phone and part of it figuring out ways not to get caught checking his phone. Yes, if you text him during school and you expect his to reply, you are teaching him not only that it is okay to break this school rule but any school rule in general. Worked out fine. After four years of high school he graduated in the top half of his class, never got into trouble while at school and is headed to Campbellsville University in April. My text messages didn't hurt too much at all.
August 5, 201214 yr I have had to carry a cell phone due to work 24/7 since 1993 and honestly I have never had to use it to call 911 in what I would call a life saving emergency, in fact, if I could turn mine off each night, life would be so much nicer..... TBG is correct, kids have a very hard time keeping focused, having a cell phone go off interrupts that focus..... BTW tell me please sir, when you were a strip in a Basketball game, did you stop, to answer your phone during the game? How many Coaches allow their players to keep their cell phones with them during a game even on the bench? PP92 you hate to be put on hold? How about the teacher hating your child and the rest of the students being bothered by your text to your child during class? Sorry but teaching kids is tough enough today, that living without a phone in your ear for a bit of time, hurts no one! He never got caught. His phone was never confiscated so no teachers or students were harmed when we were texting.
August 5, 201214 yr Worked out fine. After four years of high school he graduated in the top half of his class, never got into trouble while at school and is headed to Campbellsville University in April. My text messages didn't hurt too much at all. I'm glad that your son in going to college. However, teaching a kid that it is okay to break rules when it makes your life easier is never a good thing.
August 5, 201214 yr I'm sorry, Clyde. I missed your case. Can you spell it out for me? :lol: I apologize, I am trying to write unit plans for Advanced Physics at the same time. I might accidently have typed "cell phone" in place of "momentum" or "frame of reference" somewhere. I understand. Let me summarize what I've read from you and fill in any missing points. You agree they have benefit for POTENTIAL emergency issues. You know students have them in the pockets today. Those phones are not a problem in your class because the students know what the penalties are and they know that you will strictly enforce them. So, students have them in case of emergencies. They are not a problem because YOU enforce the rules. What am I missing?
August 5, 201214 yr Supported him breaking rules? I guess in a roundabout way I was. I knew he'd be on his phone anyways and he knew what would happen if he got caught. He never got caught. May as well have let the phones be legal in my eyes. Normally when I texted him it was because I needed him and more often than not I got an immediate response. His mom complains because he answers me immediately and makes her wait for a response. We never text one another unless necessary. Whether I am getting info trying to figure out where our lost dog is, where the car keys are, don't forget to pay your ACT fee or to have a necessary father-son conversation after an unecesary fight with his mother he always answered my texts during school hours. Ironically the slowest responses came during lunch and weightlifting. Go figure. :lol: Don't know your son nor you from Adam but from your comment above, it tells me he thinks his weightlifting and lunch are more important than his studies and you! Seems to me, you being a pretty smart guy and all, could figure that one out already!:idunno::lol:
August 5, 201214 yr TBG is correct, kids have a very hard time keeping focused, having a cell phone go off interrupts that focus..... They will not go off if the penalties are severe enough. BTW tell me please sir, when you were a strip in a Basketball game, did you stop, to answer your phone during the game? How many Coaches allow their players to keep their cell phones with them during a game even on the bench? ! Bad examples.
August 5, 201214 yr I'm glad that your son in going to college. However, teaching a kid that it is okay to break rules when it makes your life easier is never a good thing. Maybe, maybe not. He was going to test the cellphone policy whether I sent him a text or not. Just so happened one day I sent him a text during school hours and he answered. Am I supposed to follow him at school to make sure he is following all of the rules of the school or do I let him make his own decisions at school and deal with the consequences if he gets caught? It wouldn't matter if he was texting me of not if he got caught. The phone should have been gone. I let him make his own decisions at school. We never had any issues with him or his behavior at school in his four years there. Had he gotten caught I likely wouldn't have sent him texts during school songs wouldn't get in trouble. I guess he was just slick enough to not get caught. Just like I have to be at work when on the production floor. I guess the fruit doesn't fall too far from the tree.
August 5, 201214 yr Don't know your son nor you from Adam but from your comment above, it tells me he thinks his weightlifting and lunch are more important than his studies and you! Seems to me, you being a pretty smart guy and all, could figure that one out already!:idunno::lol: :lol: Typical kid. He enjoyed improving his body(for basketball and the girls) and socializing with his friends more than social studies, math and science. It is what it is. Never ending cycle. :lol:
August 5, 201214 yr They will not go off if the penalties are severe enough. Bad examples. Kids cheat on exams, drive too fast, copy homework, steal, bully other kids, drink when they are too young and much, much more and they know the rules and penalties too but they still break the rules! It's not them I care about, it's the kid who is trying to study, learn, concentrate on his/her work, that's the kid I care about, the one your kid bothers when he is trying to learn! Kids with cell phones in their pocket will use them, no matter the rule!
August 5, 201214 yr Kids with cell phones in their pocket will use them, no matter the rule! Which is why I endorse allowing the use of cellphones in classrooms as an instructional tool over a school's wireless signal. If they are going to have their phones anyways make them legal, use them as learning tools and engage those students who may not otherwise been engaged. I guarantee my weightlifting lunch eating son would have enjoyed social studies, math and science a lot more if his phone was involved. He may have even ignored my text asking where he last saw our dog.
August 5, 201214 yr I texted frequently in class, even though we weren't allowed (I was a smooth texter. Never even had to look at my phone to send a text, just to read). I can honestly say that I never felt it impacted my learning, and probably helped me to improve multi-tasking abilities. Once I got to college and was allowed to use my phone in class, I found the ability to use it for educational purposes were immensely helpful. I still text and even surf the web quite often, but if I struggle to understand a concept, immediate web access always provides me the answers I need. Kids who want to learn will always make sure they are able to do so. Kids who don't will always find ways to stay distracted. I personally don't think teachers can do anything to change that.
August 5, 201214 yr Kids cheat on exams, drive too fast, copy homework, steal, bully other kids, drink when they are too young and much, much more and they know the rules and penalties too but they still break the rules! It's not them I care about, it's the kid who is trying to study, learn, concentrate on his/her work, that's the kid I care about, the one your kid bothers when he is trying to learn! Kids with cell phones in their pocket will use them, no matter the rule! CCH kids have them in class. They lose them for 3 days if caught using them. My son says he never noticed a problem. A kid will lose his phone once or see his buddy lise it once for 3 days and its over. TBG knows they are in her class. She doesnt have a problem because she is a hammer.
August 5, 201214 yr I understand. Let me summarize what I've read from you and fill in any missing points. You agree they have benefit for POTENTIAL emergency issues. You know students have them in the pockets today. Those phones are not a problem in your class because the students know what the penalties are and they know that you will strictly enforce them. So, students have them in case of emergencies. They are not a problem because YOU enforce the rules. What am I missing? The only thing that you might be missing is that prior to THIS policy, students were allowed to have phones on them, they just couldn't be out in class, but they could use them between classes. The penalties for having them out were not nearly as harsh. Kids that used them between classes would forget to turn them off. I did have more trouble with them back then. With that said...what point were you making again? I thought that it was that you wouldn't support a school whose policy it was to disallow cellphones on a student.
August 5, 201214 yr CCH kids have them in class. They lose them for 3 days if caught using them. My son says he never noticed a problem. A kid will lose his phone once or see his buddy lise it once for 3 days and its over. TBG knows they are in her class. She doesnt have a problem because she is a hammer. She makes me want to get off my phone now. :lol:
August 5, 201214 yr I texted frequently in class, even though we weren't allowed (I was a smooth texter. Never even had to look at my phone to send a text, just to read). I can honestly say that I never felt it impacted my learning, and probably helped me to improve multi-tasking abilities. Once I got to college and was allowed to use my phone in class, I found the ability to use it for educational purposes were immensely helpful. I still text and even surf the web quite often, but if I struggle to understand a concept, immediate web access always provides me the answers I need. Kids who want to learn will always make sure they are able to do so. Kids who don't will always find ways to stay distracted. I personally don't think teachers can do anything to change that. This. Well said.
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