Again, I think people are being naive if they believe a no cellphone policy will be adhered to by every student.

 

Who's naive? I don't doubt that there are phones in the pockets and purses of students in my classroom, even though they are supposed to be locked up in the lockers. However, due to our stringent policy on "if we see them or hear them" they don't come out in class. As such, I lose 2 minutes of classtime a year to cellphone issues. Before, we could make that 2 minutes x 7 periods a day x 180 days = more time than I want to lose in helping my students learn.

Do you see any potential positives ie emergencies?

 

Yes. Again, in an emergency, those cell phones that are off and in the pockets/purses of students would come out. Yes, they are violating the rule in having them, but they are not doing to be discovered if they are off. So, I'm not really sure of the point that you are making.

Yes. Again, in an emergency, those cell phones that are off and in the pockets/purses of students would come out. Yes, they are violating the rule in having them, but they are not doing to be discovered if they are off. So, I'm not really sure of the point that you are making.

 

So we agree that they have value in emergencies. You're cool with them staying in the pockets and used only for serious emergencies.

 

What happens if you catch them using their phones today in a non-emergency situation?

We cannot discount safety simply because of frequency. Punish kids that use them in violation of the rules.

 

Replace teachers that cannot teach because they cannot enforce rules.

 

Do you really want the teacher/student "relationship" to become a cat/mouse game? I mean it's one thing if it's during a test where the teacher can walk around the classroom while everyone is supposed to be focused on their paper. But, I think there's going to be many more times where the teacher may have their back to the class writing on the board, or even answering a question from a student on the other side of the room...where there's going to be a chance for someone to use the phone.

Do you really want the teacher/student "relationship" to become a cat/mouse game? I mean it's one thing if it's during a test where the teacher can walk around the classroom while everyone is supposed to be focused on their paper. But, I think there's going to be many more times where the teacher may have their back to the class writing on the board, or even answering a question from a student on the other side of the room...where there's going to be a chance for someone to use the phone.

 

The same as it would be to write a note to their buddy in 1958, 1968, and 1988. Did we ban pencils?

 

Heck, if a kid is looking down writing you don't know if he's taking notes or writing a love letter.

 

If a kid is looking down at his phone you know it.

So we agree that they have value in emergencies. You're cool with them staying in the pockets and used only for serious emergencies.

 

What happens if you catch them using their phones today in a non-emergency situation?

 

The phone is confiscated and given to the principal.

 

Per year, the first violation results in the student or parent getting the phone returned at the end of the next school day. (so, if it happens on a Friday, they are out of luck until Monday...I've never had it happen on a Friday)

 

The second violations is for a whole calendar school week...so you really don't want to have that happen two days before spring break.

 

The third violation is for the remainder of the year.

The phone is confiscated and given to the principal.

 

Per year, the first violation results in the student or parent getting the phone returned at the end of the next school day. (so, if it happens on a Friday, they are out of luck until Monday...I've never had it happen on a Friday)

 

The second violations is for a whole calendar school week...so you really don't want to have that happen two days before spring break.

 

The third violation is for the remainder of the year.

 

Is that an effective rule in your school?

The phone is confiscated and given to the principal.

 

Per year, the first violation results in the student or parent getting the phone returned at the end of the next school day. (so, if it happens on a Friday, they are out of luck until Monday...I've never had it happen on a Friday)

 

The second violations is for a whole calendar school week...so you really don't want to have that happen two days before spring break.

 

The third violation is for the remainder of the year.

 

 

Boyle County has the same policy. My kid never had his phone confiscated and I could reach him whenever I needed to.

Boyle County has the same policy. My kid never had his phone confiscated and I could reach him whenever I needed to.

 

So...you supported him breaking school rules? Was it whenever you "needed" to or whenever you "wanted" to? I know that you'll be straight up with me. My sister-in-law and I had this discussion this summer as her daughter is entering high school this year and she told me how put out that she'd be if her daughter's phone was confiscated. I told her that if it happened, then she as a parent should take it away for a few days when she gets it back. My brother snickered, "Yeah, right! It'll be Amanda (my sis-in-law) texting her!" She gave him a dirty, but "that's true" look. She said, "Well, sometimes I need to let her know that I'll be picking her up after school, so I text her!" I asked her if she called the school office to get the message to her daughter. She said that she never thought about doing that.

Boyle County has the same policy. My kid never had his phone confiscated and I could reach him whenever I needed to.

 

I might add that you might reach him whenever you needed to...within his own time frame. I bet that there are certain teachers that he didn't even try to check his phone (like me, the kids say...sometimes our reputations precede us) or he might be doing it in between classes, where he is less likely to be caught.

I bet that there are certain teachers that he didn't even try to check his phone (like me, the kids say...sometimes our reputations precede us)

 

I rest my case.

I rest my case.

 

I'm sorry, Clyde. I missed your case. Can you spell it out for me? :lol: I apologize, I am trying to write unit plans for Advanced Physics at the same time. I might accidently have typed "cell phone" in place of "momentum" or "frame of reference" somewhere.

So...you supported him breaking school rules? Was it whenever you "needed" to or whenever you "wanted" to? I know that you'll be straight up with me. My sister-in-law and I had this discussion this summer as her daughter is entering high school this year and she told me how put out that she'd be if her daughter's phone was confiscated. I told her that if it happened, then she as a parent should take it away for a few days when she gets it back. My brother snickered, "Yeah, right! It'll be Amanda (my sis-in-law) texting her!" She gave him a dirty, but "that's true" look. She said, "Well, sometimes I need to let her know that I'll be picking her up after school, so I text her!" I asked her if she called the school office to get the message to her daughter. She said that she never thought about doing that.

 

Supported him breaking rules? I guess in a roundabout way I was. I knew he'd be on his phone anyways and he knew what would happen if he got caught. He never got caught. May as well have let the phones be legal in my eyes.

 

Normally when I texted him it was because I needed him and more often than not I got an immediate response. His mom complains because he answers me immediately and makes her wait for a response. We never text one another unless necessary. Whether I am getting info trying to figure out where our lost dog is, where the car keys are, don't forget to pay your ACT fee or to have a necessary father-son conversation after an unecesary fight with his mother he always answered my texts during school hours.

 

Ironically the slowest responses came during lunch and weightlifting. Go figure. :lol:

Supported him breaking rules? I guess in a roundabout way I was. I knew he'd be on his phone anyways and he knew what would happen if he got caught. He never got caught. May as well have let the phones be legal in my eyes.

 

Normally when I texted him it was because I needed him and more often than not I got an immediate response. His mom complains because he answers me immediately and makes her wait for a response. We never text one another unless necessary. Whether I am getting info trying to figure out where our lost dog is, where the car keys are, don't forget to pay your ACT fee or to have a necessary father-son conversation after an unecesary fight with his mother he always answered my texts during school hours.

 

Ironically the slowest responses came during lunch and weightlifting. Go figure. :lol:

 

Respectfully, PP92, none of those reasons are necessities worthy of disrupting his education. The average teenage boy has a hard enough time concentrating as it is. In this case, he's spending part of his time checking his phone and part of it figuring out ways not to get caught checking his phone.

 

Yes, if you text him during school and you expect his to reply, you are teaching him not only that it is okay to break this school rule but any school rule in general.

Do you see any potential positives ie emergencies?

 

I have had to carry a cell phone due to work 24/7 since 1993 and honestly I have never had to use it to call 911 in what I would call a life saving emergency, in fact, if I could turn mine off each night, life would be so much nicer.....

 

TBG is correct, kids have a very hard time keeping focused, having a cell phone go off interrupts that focus.....

 

BTW tell me please sir, when you were a strip in a Basketball game, did you stop, to answer your phone during the game?

 

How many Coaches allow their players to keep their cell phones with them during a game even on the bench?

 

PP92 you hate to be put on hold? How about the teacher hating your child and the rest of the students being bothered by your text to your child during class?

 

Sorry but teaching kids is tough enough today, that living without a phone in your ear for a bit of time, hurts no one!