July 7, 201214 yr Clyde, I do understand what you are saying. The mere fact that it's taking place four months prior to the election, does make it look very politically motivated and perhaps one-sided...especially when it may be limited to one certain state. However, for it to NOT be the red herring you are saying it is...just how much voter fraud has to exist in order for it to be considered worth addressing? Unless you can claim there is zero chance of it occurring, isn't it at least worth addressing at some point in time? A decade ago we re-did the security at airports because 4 planes out of probably 5 to 6 million or so that year, got hijacked. Add in the previous years without a similar incident and that's a pretty small number. So changes were made. But, does it completely eliminate all chances of it happening again? No. The same way, that you have pointed out, that a voter ID would not completely eliminate any chance of fraud down the line. So whether changes are made right now, or six months from now after the election is over, I'm all for looking into the current "system" and addressing any potential problems. That's what I'm trying to say. Understatement of the thread so far.
July 7, 201214 yr Funny how soon the left forgets. Who was screaming voter fraud after Bush's last election? Now they saw voter fraud is not a problem. Hilarious.
July 7, 201214 yr Funny how soon the left forgets. Who was screaming voter fraud after Bush's last election? Now they saw voter fraud is not a problem. Hilarious. I thought they were saying that this 'fix' of voter fraud could likely eliminate hundreds of thousands of innocent voters. IMO that is the real fraud.
July 7, 201214 yr I thought they were saying that this 'fix' of voter fraud could likely eliminate hundreds of thousands of innocent voters. IMO that is the real fraud.And how would a legal voter be "eliminated"?
July 7, 201214 yr Been covered. See post #4.Other than a drivers licence, what forms of ID are approved in PA?
July 7, 201214 yr Author Other than a drivers licence, what forms of ID are approved in PA? The new law will require every voter going to the polls in November to provide a specified form of photo identification: either a Pennsylvania driver's license, a nondriver photo ID issued by PennDot, a U.S. passport, a photo ID from an accredited Pennsylvania college, U.S. military ID, ID from a Pennsylvania care facility, or photo ID issued to government employees. Civic groups urge delay in Pennsylvania's voter-ID law
July 7, 201214 yr The new law will require every voter going to the polls in November to provide a specified form of photo identification: either a Pennsylvania driver's license, a nondriver photo ID issued by PennDot, a U.S. passport, a photo ID from an accredited Pennsylvania college, U.S. military ID, ID from a Pennsylvania care facility, or photo ID issued to government employees. So in other words the folks in Pa. have plenty of options. Even more than they had before. So how will thousands be eliminated..Post 4 is total spin... Edited July 7, 201214 yr by PurplePride92
July 7, 201214 yr The new law will require every voter going to the polls in November to provide a specified form of photo identification: either a Pennsylvania driver's license, a nondriver photo ID issued by PennDot, a U.S. passport, a photo ID from an accredited Pennsylvania college, U.S. military ID, ID from a Pennsylvania care facility, or photo ID issued to government employees. Civic groups urge delay in Pennsylvania's voter-ID law Doesn't a nondriver photo ID only cost 5 or 10 dollars. How are they buying alcohol, for instance, with no ID? I can think of other times I've needed an ID, so how are these people getting along without an ID?
July 7, 201214 yr The new law will require every voter going to the polls in November to provide a specified form of photo identification: either a Pennsylvania driver's license, a nondriver photo ID issued by PennDot, a U.S. passport, a photo ID from an accredited Pennsylvania college, U.S. military ID, ID from a Pennsylvania care facility, or photo ID issued to government employees.So in other words the folks in Pa. have plenty of options. Even more than they had before. So how will thousands be eliminated..Post 4 is total spin... Doesn't a nondriver photo ID only cost 5 or 10 dollars. How are they buying alcohol, for instance, with no ID? I can think of other times I've needed an ID, so how are these people getting along without an ID? See posts 19 and 23.
July 7, 201214 yr Doesn't a nondriver photo ID only cost 5 or 10 dollars. How are they buying alcohol, for instance, with no ID? I can think of other times I've needed an ID, so how are these people getting along without an ID? You'd have to ask the 758K people who are eligible to vote but now don't have proper identification to be able to vote. My guess is that their life is markedly different from ours and a form of ID is not a necessity in their ability to function in life.
July 7, 201214 yr You'd have to ask the 758K people who are eligible to vote but now don't have proper identification to be able to vote And how do you know that they ARE eligible?
July 7, 201214 yr And how do you know that they ARE eligible? I don't. Just going by what I read in the links provided.
July 7, 201214 yr How do those 758K people purchase a gun if they want one? No one seems to have an issue with requiring an id for that.
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