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Is CovCath violating Title IX?

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How does it violate the spirit of Title IX? Title IX deals with equal opportunity for girls and those schools with girls are getting that. They get to play on the "prime" night. The only way I can see where you can make this big leap is if you truly believe that fans attending tonight's CCH-HHS game would have attended a girls game if CCH-HHS boys were not playing tonight. I find that hard to believe.

 

Secondly, on the big list of things that the public schools are complaining about when it comes to private schools, this would have to be very low considering there are 3 all boys schools in the state.

 

 

I agree that nearly everyone going to the CC/ Highlands game would not attend a Girls game tonight.

 

However, I will speculate that the TV highlight cameras will for sure be in one place along with the newspapers.

 

One, however, could argue that news makes itself and that the media does not make the news. If they cover the High/CC game it is because it is of more interest.

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Neither CovCath nor NDA should have to cater to the demands of Title IX. Why must the male or female private school always be required to adjust how it operates just to "accommodate" the public schools? Possibly the publics should divide into male and female schools. Silly? Of course. But just as reasonable.

 

Isn't Title IX a United States Education Amendment? You're making it sound like it's a public school agreement.

 

BTW, I think this would have more affect on HHS than CCH since they're playing on Friday in January and have female's at their school. On the other hand, if the percentage is ok it doesn't really matter.

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Neither CovCath nor NDA should have to cater to the demands of Title IX. Why must the male or female private school always be required to adjust how it operates just to "accommodate" the public schools? Possibly the publics should divide into male and female schools. Silly? Of course. But just as reasonable.

 

One could argue that CC is hurting the efforts of fellow 9th region private schools St. Henry, Villa, and NCC (along with the public schools playing tonight or any Friday in January) by playing at the same time as the Girls.

I think it's ridiculous anyway. It doesn't matter what day the games are on, you still can't force people to watch a girls game if they don't want to. I'm all for Title IX in terms of funding and facilities, but the scheduling aspect is dumb. Ask a girls player if she had rather play in front of 150 fans at 7:30 or play at 6 pm when there may be 1,000 fans in the seats by the end of their game. Every player I've ever asked had rather play in front of fans at 6 instead of an empty gym at 7:30.

How does that affect Notre Dame and what they should be able to do?

 

What does ND have to do with CCH in this thread?

What does ND have to do with CCH in this thread?

Please see post #13.

 

Should ND be required to schedule a minimal games on Friday nights because public school girls team, has to?

How does it violate the spirit of Title IX? Title IX deals with equal opportunity for girls and those schools with girls are getting that. They get to play on the "prime" night. The only way I can see where you can make this big leap is if you truly believe that fans attending tonight's CCH-HHS game would have attended a girls game if CCH-HHS boys were not playing tonight. I find that hard to believe.

 

Secondly, on the big list of things that the public schools are complaining about when it comes to private schools, this would have to be very low considering there are 3 all boys schools in the state.

 

You can't showcase the girls on a night when there is only one show in town.

 

Let's face it, this is all about money for CCH and if just happens to tread on Title 9 so be it.

Please see post #13.

 

Should ND be required to schedule a minimal games on Friday nights because public school girls team, has to?

 

I agree it should work both ways but double standards are not uncommon.

Has the new system of some girls games being played on Friday proved to be successful?

The 10th region proposed realigning the girls regional tournament because of media exposure. Presently, the championship game is on the Tuesday night before the boys State Tournament begins. How much pub in the paper and media do you think the Girls 10th Region championship game gets the next day VS. the 1st round of the boys state tournament.

 

The ones representing the schools in the 10th region voted the proposal down.

Has the new system of some girls games being played on Friday proved to be successful?

I am not sure what the criteria is to judge whether it is successful or not. What drives crowds to come is whether your team is winning or not.

 

I do believe it sends an indirect message that the two programs are equals.

I think it's ridiculous anyway. It doesn't matter what day the games are on, you still can't force people to watch a girls game if they don't want to. I'm all for Title IX in terms of funding and facilities, but the scheduling aspect is dumb. Ask a girls player if she had rather play in front of 150 fans at 7:30 or play at 6 pm when there may be 1,000 fans in the seats by the end of their game. Every player I've ever asked had rather play in front of fans at 6 instead of an empty gym at 7:30.

 

Maybe so, but ask a girls bball player if they would ever like to play a basketball game where they don't have to get up early and go to school the next day. Traditionally girls played on Monday and Thursday and never had that opportunity.

Terrible, terrible, terrible solution.

 

For a GOOD % of the schools, players play both JV and V.

 

So they are out on a Monday night for a JV game, out on Tuesday night for a V game, practice on Wednesday, out on Thursday night for a JV game, out on a Friday night for a V game.

 

1 night of practice per week and 1 weekend practice is not the way for a young JV player to improve.

 

 

I also doubt that there would be enough varsity or JV officials to allow double the number of games on each night.

You can't showcase the girls on a night when there is only one show in town.

 

Let's face it, this is all about money for CCH and if just happens to tread on Title 9 so be it.

 

G - How are the girls at those schools not being showcased? The argument at dual-sex schools is that if girls get the opportunity to play on Friday nights, A)its fair and B)it will cause students/parents that normally would not go to a Thursday night girls game to suddenly appear at a Friday night game. (I doubt that has proven to be true BTW). So, if Dixie boys take the night off so that the Dixie girls can play on Friday, what does that have to do with CCH? Again, its a HUGE jump to say that this will somehow affect the Dixie girls attendance.

 

Second point: Its about money. Maybe. However, this game could be played Wednesday afternoon at 4:00 or Thursday night at 10:30 and they're going to pull in a huge crowd. The fact that its on Friday will have minimal(ie insignificant) impact on the gate.

 

If your argument is about perception, that's fine. Its completely different than "fairness" to the Dixie girls, though.

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I do believe it sends an indirect message that the two programs are equals.

 

I'm all for that.

 

However, there was an article last year that says this quest for equality is costing many schools significant needed revenue.

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