Age appropriate, I don't think it is HS appropriate, but college kids are better suited to cypher the speech.

 

Depends on the age. I think it is age-appropriate for seniors without question.

 

You said you would hope they would challenge the speaker. I'm cool with that. That's different than just walking out. However, in this forum it probably isn't set up to challenge the speaker until the Q&A. The students should have waited for that opportunity.

 

If you're 17 or 18 it's time to learn how to be challenged. You can't be protected by your parents and the church at all times. It can be a rough world out there. This is pretty mild.

Of the thousand kids there, I bet 1% might have known who he was and what he stood for.

 

I'd say a lot more than that did. He's been all over MTV for the last year or so with his anti-bullying campaign. He has his own show on there now. I'd say more of those kids knew who he was than you think.

Just out of curiosity, not trying to pick a fight or anything..just curious. Would you go to listen to someone like Dan Savage speak? I ask because you are the most devout Christian I know besides my mother-in-law and I guarantee she wouldn't be in the same building as Dan Savage let alone go listen to him speak.

 

I think it's a positive to give students the chance to listen in a group to all kinds of viewpoints. We suffer today because so many people stick their heads in the sand and cover their ears when someone says something that they disagree with. Hard to learn that way. It's always good to have your beliefs challenged. You should always be evaluating them and taking into consideration what others say.

I'd say a lot more than that did. He's been all over MTV for the last year or so with his anti-bullying campaign. He has his own show on there now. I'd say more of those kids knew he was than you think.

 

 

I would agree. He was roundly applauded at the end. My guess is this wasn't the first exposure for the majority.

I think it's a positive to give students the chance to listen in a group to all kinds of viewpoints. We suffer today because so many people stick their heads in the sand and cover their ears when someone says something that they disagree with. Hard to learn that way. It's always good to have your beliefs challenged. You should always be evaluating them and taking into consideration what others say.

 

I couldn't agree more. Watching his show as he goes from college campus to college campus is enlightening.

More may have known him from MTV I agree, but I don't watch it anymore, they don't show videos, I stick to metal mania on VH1 classics.

 

With how kids are today, I am surprised someone didn't challenge him.

More may have known him from MTV I agree, but I don't watch it anymore, they don't show videos, I stick to metal mania on VH1 classics.

 

With how kids are today, I am surprised someone didn't challenge him.

 

I wold have preferred to have read about 100 kids challenging him than 100 walking out. Walking out solves nothing and shows a stubbornness and closed mind to understand why some feel and think the way they think.

Frankly, those 100 needed to walk out if they couldn't deal with someone like Savage, because if you're planning to be a journalist, your whole day can regularly be filled with dealing with whackos of varying levels of abrasiveness. They hopefully just recognized that they weren't cut out for the job, because the journalism world don't need people who can only deal with fellow sheeple. There's probably hundreds more who remained behind who also need to get out if they were choir-types there to rally behind a lefty cause.

 

And let's calm this talk of Savage and "journalist" appearing in association with one another. He ain't no journalist.

I'm proud of those who had the courage to leave. It was not an open forum where they could debate the issues with this guy. I teach my children that they do not have to sit still and be berated. If they are not permitted to debate calmly and protect themselves and their beliefs, then they should remove themselves from the situation if they are uncomfortable. It's one thing to listen to other's beliefs, it's quite another to sit still while you have your beliefs attacked.

I'm proud of those who had the courage to leave. It was not an open forum where they could debate the issues with this guy. I teach my children that they do not have to sit still and be berated. If they are not permitted to debate calmly and protect themselves and their beliefs, then they should remove themselves from the situation if they are uncomfortable. It's one thing to listen to other's beliefs, it's quite another to sit still while you have your beliefs attacked.

 

I thought there was a Q & A session at the end.

 

Journalists have to do that. Part of the job may be dealing with people who don't share your beliefs.

Frankly, those 100 needed to walk out if they couldn't deal with someone like Savage, because if you're planning to be a journalist, your whole day can regularly be filled with dealing with whackos of varying levels of abrasiveness. They hopefully just recognized that they weren't cut out for the job, because the journalism world don't need people who can only deal with fellow sheeple. There's probably hundreds more who remained behind who also need to get out if they were choir-types there to rally behind a lefty cause.

 

And let's calm this talk of Savage and "journalist" appearing in association with one another. He ain't no journalist.

 

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He's more of a personality. Does he even write? I have only seen him on MTV and Bill Maher's show.

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He's more of a personality. Does he even write? I have only seen him on MTV and Bill Maher's show.

 

Yeah, MTV and Maher appearances don't pass muster. "Personality" is definitely appropriate.

I think it's a positive to give students the chance to listen in a group to all kinds of viewpoints. We suffer today because so many people stick their heads in the sand and cover their ears when someone says something that they disagree with. Hard to learn that way. It's always good to have your beliefs challenged. You should always be evaluating them and taking into consideration what others say.

 

This would be a pretty weak and uninteresting forum otherwise.

I'm wondering what the magnitude of the outcry would be if we were talking about, say, "Anti-Bullying Speaker Curses Muslim Teens."

 

I prefer to expect the best of people; so I'll say that the outrage would be just the same.

I thought there was a Q & A session at the end.

 

Journalists have to do that. Part of the job may be dealing with people who don't share your beliefs.

 

They weren't journalists. They were high school kids. What's your profession? Were you prepared for all it's challenges in high school? Shoot, I wasn't prepared for mine until 4-5 years after I graduated college so I certainly don't expect it from high schoolers. I know the great majority of people in my high school journalism classes and organizations never got anywhere near it as a career. As I said, not sharing your beliefs is one thing, insulting deeply held religious beliefs is another thing entirely.