SilverShadow

Both you and Tigershark continue to make a claim of better educational results with private schools vs. public schools. Excluding myself, several have asked for support of such statements. Yet, public school supporters have provided links and facts. Now, you wish to remove from the measurement part of the debate. That is all OK. You are not the first to wish to stop from the challenge when the debate goes from the assumption to the factual.

Sure, why not. While you are at your simple math calculation, try to advance yourself with a little sub data analysis. Make sure to include the percent of a public school population that are special needs and free/reduced lunch vs. private schools. Or are you of the opinion that entire student populations do not need to be measured? When one actually removes those students who fall under those particular sub groups and those scores removed from the testing pool, you will actually find better education results in the public school vs. the private. As noted in a Christian Science Monitor article (A religious publication saying public schools are doing better than private?!), measured like demographic groups of students, public schools are providing better results. And, I am well aware of the testing publication parameters of public education. What I find most interesting is the fear of the private schools to measure themselves publically to similar or same tests.

No, provide information in the same format as you wish to take down the public schools about. Where are the state test scores for private schools in Kentucky vs. the rest of USA. What are the test scores for each private high school in the state of Kentucky. The public schools has it out there, loud and clear, with all the students, Special needs and all being tested. Now, can you put the scores up or not?

That is because none exist!

This coming from the same person who said there is more to test scores in education. That is why us dumb public school supporters do not understand the private schools?!

Glad you see it my way. Thanks for making it quite easy.

OK, now name the source for the great private school test scores.

So to be consistent with the comments of Tigershark, maybe I should just reply you do not get it. Maybe just hold an opinion that you are biased in your observation and really not qualified to hold judgement. No, my friend, you are entitled to your opinion, but in this case, the arrogance is the assumption one does not understand a fairly simple, narrow view point as shown by Tigershark.

Your friend is a moron.

Highlands is an open school district? They accept anyone and everyone who applies? How much you want to bet?

Pure arrogance!

Perhaps those who claim exceptional testing results from private schools can share or link to any site that reports these scores. I will await to hear or read these results.

I have been trying to stay out of this. Tigershark, quote your testing source to make this rank claim.

The weakness of your point is EVERYONE that is responsible for parochial school athletic decisions are aware of this option and NONE wish to explore it. Perhaps you need to understand why they do not embrace the idea.

There must be something to it. If it was all wrong and stupid then the private schools have a position of strength. Why even deal with it. Does anyone listen to what is being said. To all the private school posters. ONE OF YOUR OWN board appointments - Bob Schneider of NCC made it very clear "There is a problem and I thought this was being addressed but the effort is now really organized". If this was just a waste of time and/or just whining, can anyone on this board who knows Coach Schneider to any degree suggest he would not say as much and quite loud?

I wonder if your keen motive for vouchers would include the REQUIREMENT to educate the student, EVEN IF YOU EXPEL. Try pricing that service. Also, if they have an IEP from a dianosis you cannot expel. Try dealing with that.

Gross physical assault. or possession of a narcotic.

This will be fun.... OK... So, if a student takes a voucher to HC and is diagnosed with a disability that falls under the IDEA guidelines and with his own IEP, would HC have the simple right to expell him/her if they grossly violated HC rules?

How about we give latitude to all schools to decide their outcome and free them to deal with the malcontents of society? By the way, parents have all the choice in the world to send kids where ever they want.

Which sullivan?

OK, Big Stud explain how this is against Holy Cross. Frankly, this is a huge gift and anything less than thanks, well..

To be spent any way they wish, Right?!

So, the comments by the Covington Superintendent Moreland to NOT support Prop #20 is somehow anti private - how? :creepy: :lol:

Is it just possible there is a little "us vs. them" mentality in anything being proposed? For instance, this debate continues to center around how it would impact the private school world, but some of these proposals can clearly be labeled the "highlands/mitchell" proposals.

I take it to mean Prop. 20? If that is the case, no. It is not the best solution or the answer. But, it is the result of frustration and anger. Say what we all will on this site, the most interesting point made to date is NCC Coach Schneider - a private school representative said "Something needs to be done and working towards that.." but not Prop 20. Failure to understand the position of the vast majority of members is not a very smart thing to do. Agree or disagree, the vast majority of members in KHSAA is public schools. There will be changes in rules. I do not think it will be Prop 20, but prop 20 will get darn near 50% of the vote. I think residency rules and transfer rules will be the ongoing debate and rule change proposals for the next couple of years and there will be changes. My opinion, State residency rule will pass all levels.