SoftballFan14

What would you say the chances are?

When did you start caring what people say?? I agree, should be two separate awards. Position players often get the shaft because of awards usually going to pitchers.

I like fishing!

I don't know why you shouldn't post those numbers. Hell, I think you should post her career numbers! Same numbers year after year should earn her some recognition along with that D1 scholarship.

Let's give it a try!

Well, from what I've heard (from all those supporters at Ryle)....she did not step down; from either basketball or softball.

Ginn is his niece, isn't she? Why not move to Ryle too?

Good luck tomorrow! We are rooting for Male.

Wow!! Congratulations CC!

Congratulations Gallatin!

Abby Jones, Notre Dame, was also 2nd team.

Congratulations to all the girls!

The Lawnboy Repellent was a gift to me. Thanks KD!! But I will bring it to regionals because I have no doubt Lawnboy will be buzzing around the field somewhere

Congratulations Noelle!!!

I'm sure someone has dressed a Bulldog in a dress before!! LOL

And I'll wear orange & black!

Hope she heals fast! Thank goodness Boone, HC & NDA can't all make it to Owensboro along with Male....there would be a serious beer shortage that week!

I asked Iris because you said the coach "had" to send the runner to try to tie the game. My point is, he did not have to send her. Was that the best choice? Possibly. Would I want to be in that position? Probably not. When you use definitive verbiage, makes little room for thinking the coach may have ran all scenarios through before he sent runner. Certainly he was FULLY up on the Conner girls ball experience right? The fact that Brooke and Lexi (2 girls involved in this perfect play) both have played several years of travel softball would have certainly lent a hand in whether a green light was given to send the runner or not. You never answered who the next batter was..... Like I said, it was the HAD TO SEND comment that prompted my comment/question.

Anonymity is great for some people, isn't it?

Oh Iris12, let's do this in order so you don't get confused, I'll even color coat it for you.... I am happy when Ryle loses because I despise the Oliverios! Sure it is a forum to benefit players, programs & families. It is also a forum to voice your opinion, for which I have done. You may not agree with me & that is certainly your prerogative. Since you are obviously close to the program in some fashion, you know my daughter did play there. For four years actually. If I had a looking glass five years ago she would have never played a moment for them! Hindsight is 20/20 & every situation is a life lesson; this is just a life lesson that I do not feel she should have ever had to deal with at 15. No high school girl should actually. Her "friends", that are still there, are aware of the reason our family removed her from that environment. Some understand, some may not. What I would say to people that do not is "you and your daughter live through what we did last year & tell me how you would handle it." I do not lose sleep over anyone, at Ryle or not at Ryle, that does not agree with our reasons. When have I insulted the 'program'? My disdain is directed at the coaches & the "no backboned" administration. If I have directed any dislike towards any of the girls, please point it out because that was not my intent. Do you realize I almost just choked to death? Hundreds of families, HIGHLY DOUBTFUL!!! Do I believe there are supporters of theirs, absolutely!! There are some that buy into what they teach. My thoughts are because they agree with the coaching methods of bullying and humiliating people into pushing themselves or because going along with it enables their kids to have more playing time than they may have gotten if not fully supportive. But that's what I've concluded over my four years of watching, someone else may have concluded something totally different. The people I am aware of as being "bitter & angry" have had kids that started varsity. So I would say playing time was an issue only if they wanted their kid to sit the bench! As for positions, no one that I am aware of had issues with that either....my husband went directly to the coaches at the beginning of the season and told them that my daughter, knowing Ryle lost huge asset in Cassie behind the plate, was willing to catch if that is what was best for the team. So as you hint, position concern was not even a thought in our mind. My daughter is quite capable of playing multiple positions. Yes, I will give it to the Oliverios that they do instill SOME key values (hard work) into their players. HOWEVER, the other values they teach are not anything I want my daughter to have (dirty play, inability to lose gracefully, bullying people, and more that I won't even go into). So when weighing their 'values' there were more we did not agree with than the hard work that we did. Plus, she already knew hard work before they ever became her coaches. We have already established that you are fully aware of where my daughter goes to school, feigning ignorance is not becoming for anyone. I really like Bruce Lee's quote "mistakes are always forgivable, if one has the courage to admit them." You know what hasn't been done? Either coach admitting their mistakes last year. Narcissism usually doesn't coincide with admitting fault & I do not feel a tad bit guilty for not even contemplating ever forgiving them. They will never apologize to my daughter, therefore I do not ever foresee myself forgiving them. That is my fault that I will address directly with God. I believe only Guru and forum moderators can answer why threads are locked, as I am not the one locking them. I tend to lean towards them being aware of where the posts could go rather than what has been posted (although some may be based on what was actually posted). I have held back what I truly want to say, so I have to disagree that my posts have been hateful. Could be far worse, if you would like to discuss face to face I will fill you in completely how I feel. Since my posts have not been towards the girls I do not care that the coaches feel my posts are heartless & cruel or if anyone from Ryle, fans or coaches, read my posts. I feel they were heartless & cruel to their players over the years, guess we can call it even. I look in the mirror every day and difference between me and the coaches is I am able to admit my faults, I have plenty. I am also aware that my feelings towards them is one of them. I'm willing to live with fault, since no one is perfect. Wow! Am I responsible for them not coming back? Or am I responsible for giving administration information that the coaches personally did that ultimately led to their removal, when they couldn't control their coaching ways? I would say that fault lies on their shoulders! They were made aware of expectations after we made our concerns aware to Ryle administration and BCBOE. If they were unable to control themselves and fell back into coaching ways that they had been made aware were no longer acceptable......that is not our fault. Remember......we are at ND, far away from Ryle. Can you please show me where I ever said that SS was not an important position or that we were upset my daughter "lost to a better performing player"? Ali pitched great last year, as she did again this year. I beg you to prove me as saying anything other than just that! REDUNDANCY...........really? Was there someONE that I called out for what I believed to be an underlying dig at my daughter? Sure did. My failing memory must have shut out the "others" that I have criticized. Again, please point out anyone I am forgetting all while showing me where I criticized other kids. No, I do not intend on following my daughter to college or to her first job. Will I offer her insight into situations I may feel are not good for her, you bet....until the day I take my last breath!! I think most parents that are caring and active in their kids lives do this...am I wrong? Yes, finally....something you say I said that is actually truth!! Karma, it does come around, doesn't it? May take a while, but it does. Just like some day I'm sure karma will find me for something too, what's your point here? Excuse me, but you are the one that started this rant....you obviously are having a hard time letting it go. People are free to read what they want or ignore what they want. If they do not read what I post, I'm okay with it. Did someone post something about Ryle not performing because of pitching this year? I must have missed that thread!! I have seen nothing but compliments towards Ali regarding her pitching...and guess what...I personally gave her compliment after the game against ND so please do not try to spin my lack of comments about Ali as anything negative. Ali is aware that this house has nothing but support for her...our lack of support for the former coaches has nothing to do with Ali, or any other Ryle player! The team was poisoned? Do you think that was our fault too or could that actually be that some remaining players/parents may have been more apt to vocalize what was wrong rather than thinking it was just something they had to continue to accept this year? The backbone-less administration was at fault for the non performing season? How do you explain that? Wait....that's right, the coaches are never at fault!! It HAS to be the bitter, tainted parents or the administration! Nothing but winning falls on the Oliverios!! I have now said my piece too, thank you for giving me the opportunity. Pull out your dictionary when you speak of slander....what I have posted is not untrue, therefore, not slander. Some is merely my opinion, some I have documentation on which shows it is not lies. Want to read the stack of information I have?? I'll meet with you anytime and let you have a good read, some of it dates back to their coaching at Boone County! I currently like the decision Ryle made! Do I think it was later than it should have been? Sure I do, but everything happens for a reason. It has all worked out how it was meant too. Let's compare what people think about our children.

Why did he have to send the runner? Runner on 3rd with two outs, give the next batter chance to hit the ball & score her, score on passed ball, etc. There were more scenarios than sending runner & trying to tie game. Who was next batter?

Clyde, at least you didn't have to see her as up close as your daughter did.

Obviously I should read whole thread. And LB, frightening I had same thought as you

So redtruck, what advice did you give her?

Only made it through first batter. Resumes tomorrow.