January 11, 201214 yr Here you go, here is the real life example that did happen. And now a New Jersey judge sees no evidence that a Muslim committed sexual assault of his wife -- not because he didn't do it, but because he was acting on his Islamic beliefs: "This court does not feel that, under the circumstances, that this defendant had a criminal desire to or intent to sexually assault or to sexually contact the plaintiff when he did. The court believes that he was operating under his belief that it is, as the husband, his desire to have sex when and whether he wanted to, was something that was consistent with his practices and it was something that was not prohibited." http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/sharia-in-new-jersey-muslim-husband-rapes-wife-judge-sees-no-sexual-assault-because-husbands-religio.html But it was overturned on appeal. Judges HATE to be overturned on appeal so I don't see it becoming a problem.
January 11, 201214 yr Here you go, here is the real life example that did happen. And now a New Jersey judge sees no evidence that a Muslim committed sexual assault of his wife -- not because he didn't do it, but because he was acting on his Islamic beliefs: "This court does not feel that, under the circumstances, that this defendant had a criminal desire to or intent to sexually assault or to sexually contact the plaintiff when he did. The court believes that he was operating under his belief that it is, as the husband, his desire to have sex when and whether he wanted to, was something that was consistent with his practices and it was something that was not prohibited." http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/sharia-in-new-jersey-muslim-husband-rapes-wife-judge-sees-no-sexual-assault-because-husbands-religio.html And there you have proof that American law will not succumb to Sharia. The appellate court over ruled this judge. Thank you for that example.
January 11, 201214 yr And there you have proof that American law will not succumb to Sharia. The appellate court over ruled this judge. Thank you for that example. This time it didnt happen, but it has already been used and accepted by a legit judge. The next time or next case it may not be overturned, then we have a dangerous precedent. Dont think the Muslim Brotherhood (CAIR) wont stop trying to inch a little closer so those cans of worms will be open
January 11, 201214 yr This time it didnt happen, but it has already been used and accepted by a legit judge. The next time or next case it may not be overturned, then we have a dangerous precedent. Dont think the Muslim Brotherhood (CAIR) wont stop trying to inch a little closer so those cans of worms will be open Do you honestly believe that predominantely Christian country would allow the Muslim Brotherhood to overthrow our culture? You are missing the point. The 1st Amendment regulates the government from interfering in religious practice. However, the rights of the individuals in the religion will still be protected by the Constitution. So any stoning to death, mutilation, etc. will still be a crime.
January 11, 201214 yr This time it didnt happen, but it has already been used and accepted by a legit judge. The next time or next case it may not be overturned, then we have a dangerous precedent. Dont think the Muslim Brotherhood (CAIR) wont stop trying to inch a little closer so those cans of worms will be open Actually the opposite is true. With the appellate court decision, there is now precedent that American law over rules a Sharia defense which will make it even harder for a lower level judge to rule in favor of a defendant claiming Sharia. If the appellate court had sided with the lower judge, we would have cause for concern.
January 11, 201214 yr As I see it, the courts decision was to ensure Muslim employees' ability to practice their religion during the day. I'm not up on Islam, so I don't know how many times a day that they must face Mecca and pray. However, I'm certain that it happens during the work day. Additionally, there is fasting and what types of products they can and can not handle. It protects the reasonable accomodations that other religious practices receive.
January 11, 201214 yr This time it didnt happen, but it has already been used and accepted by a legit judge. The next time or next case it may not be overturned, then we have a dangerous precedent. Dont think the Muslim Brotherhood (CAIR) wont stop trying to inch a little closer so those cans of worms will be open You and I agree that any scenario in which Sharia law is used to govern civil court decisions or to erode rights otherwise held by citizens of this country is a terrible thing. My problem is with this particular law. The Oklahoma law as written will NEVER pass a Constitutional test as it specifically targets Islam and no other religion. Strict scrutiny is extremely difficult to overcome and for good reason. Other than enforcing the constitutional and legal protections we already have, what is the option?
January 11, 201214 yr Do you honestly believe that predominantely Christian country would allow the Muslim Brotherhood to overthrow our culture? You are missing the point. The 1st Amendment regulates the government from interfering in religious practice. However, the rights of the individuals in the religion will still be protected by the Constitution. So any stoning to death, mutilation, etc. will still be a crime. Apparently we are not much of a Christian Country, look at what we are doing to Christian culture Yes I believe it may happen, it already has in England, why not here. Many cultures have been over threw or changed, ask the Native Americans
January 11, 201214 yr Here you go, here is the real life example that did happen. And now a New Jersey judge sees no evidence that a Muslim committed sexual assault of his wife -- not because he didn't do it, but because he was acting on his Islamic beliefs: "This court does not feel that, under the circumstances, that this defendant had a criminal desire to or intent to sexually assault or to sexually contact the plaintiff when he did. The court believes that he was operating under his belief that it is, as the husband, his desire to have sex when and whether he wanted to, was something that was consistent with his practices and it was something that was not prohibited." http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/07/sharia-in-new-jersey-muslim-husband-rapes-wife-judge-sees-no-sexual-assault-because-husbands-religio.html That case was rejected on appeal. We always have judges to put their own interpretation on laws but fortunately we have ways to appeal those.
January 11, 201214 yr Well I would rather be taken over by them than forced to Islamic Law and beliefs. At least they are American. You do realize that many people who practice Islam in this country are American, right?
January 11, 201214 yr You do realize that many people who practice Islam in this country are American, right? Don't you know? Only WASPs qualify as authentic Americans.
January 11, 201214 yr Are you saying you believe a US court would allow cutting off of limbs? No. But why are some trying to have Sharia law recognized by the courts? I do believe this is just part of overall effort to see America destroyed from within by political correctness. Those like CAIR know there are some in this country who hate what we are and wish to see our way of life destroyed. CAIR and their allies dislike our Chritian heritage, our economic standing and our military might. They hate that we are a superpower and will try any method to destroy our economic, political and military power. I also know that there are some average Americans that cannot see the hatred that some have for our nation and will ignore what is happening.
January 11, 201214 yr No. But why are some trying to have Sharia law recognized by the courts? I do believe this is just part of overall effort to see America destroyed from within by political correctness. Those like CAIR know there are some in this country who hate what we are and wish to see our way of life destroyed. CAIR and their allies dislike our Chritian heritage, our economic standing and our military might. They hate that we are a superpower and will try any method to destroy our economic, political and military power. I also know that there are some average Americans that cannot see the hatred that some have for our nation and will ignore what is happening. The fact that they are trying to have it recognized by the courts speaks to the beauty of our country. They'll fail but they get their chance.
January 11, 201214 yr Isn't Sharia Law mainly a religious based moral code? If so, they would only pertain to Muslims if they chose it in their day to day life. How does Sharia Law affect any person who doesn't practice ferverent Islam? It has no bearing on my life.
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