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Pilot Refuses to Allow Muslim Men to Board Plane

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Under FAA rules, a pilot is the absolute master of his plane. He may ground a plane or exclude a passenger for any reason he deems necessary. My father was an airline pilot for over 25 years. I am not necessarily justifying the decision, but would be willing to bet there is more to this story. For starters, if the pilot's subjective belief was baseless, why did TSA feel it necessary to search them 3 times?

Incidentally, TSA in Memphis is brutal. I came through there in 2004 with a single white male one-way ticket and was an automatic lock to be searched. They undid my belt and put their hand down the front of my drawers. I actually did say "touch my junk and you and me are gonna have issues," and we glowered at each other for about two minutes. I was the dead last passenger to be boarded, even though I was there very early.

There's no excuse. None.

 

Agreed. Plus, the TSA is a joke, IMO.

Two Muslim Religious Leaders Suing

 

What an idiot. So sad that we still have so many bigots out there.

 

Well the 2 Imans have only 9-11 to blame for this. Why are they suing anyway, where is the tolerance they speak of. Shouldnt they show the pilot the love of peace instead of suing for the love of money.

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^They were very cooperative with everything. They were very peaceful. They were denied the ability to fly based on their nationality. That's discrimination. No surprise you support that. Bigots everywhere unite!

There's no excuse. None.
Based on what is in the article I'm going to agree with you. The Pilot will have a hard time explaining this one.

You know I really don't have a problem with this. Not saying that I would do it, but I could see why a pilot could have concerns. Its kind of of racist on his part, but everyone is probably predjudice in some way or another.

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^It's against the law to discriminate based on one's race, nationality, gender, etc.

You know I really don't have a problem with this. Not saying that I would do it, but I could see why a pilot could have concerns. Its kind of of racist on his part, but everyone is probably predjudice in some way or another.

 

That doesn't justify it in the court of law. There will be repercussions for this. In my mind, if I was discriminated against given these circumstances, not suing would have a greater benefit for my cause.

That doesn't justify it in the court of law. There will be repercussions for this. In my mind, if I was discriminated against given these circumstances, not suing would have a greater benefit for my cause.

 

On the otherhand, suing allows the matter to establish precedence in case of future incidents...and there will be (and have been) other incidents.

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That doesn't justify it in the court of law. There will be repercussions for this. In my mind, if I was discriminated against given these circumstances, not suing would have a greater benefit for my cause.

 

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I follow....You wouldn't sue? What would be "your cause"?

There will be lots of incidents. 9/11 has consequences. If a pilot believes (even if it is merely a gut belief) that a person is a terror suspect, I would rather him remove the men from the plane and pay damages for the discrimination than take them on the plane. Police officers do this all the time; rather than risk a crime, a police officer will make an arrest based upon prejudicial views, and accept dismissal of the case later.

 

It is what it is.

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I follow....You wouldn't sue? What would be "your cause"?

 

I'm going out on a limb here, this thought popped up in my head.

 

They were going "to attend a conference on anti-Muslim bigotry" and they were discriminated against by the pilot. My cause would be biting my tongue. Why? The pilot made himself look foolish with his discriminatory actions and the two victims are preaching against what precisely happened to them. If they don't react to what he did, wouldn't you agree people (& the pilot himself) would find a greater respect for them? I am looking at the big picture from the two Muslim's standpoint (given their purpose).

 

This is just a thought.

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