Does Suh or Big Ben deserve to be mentioned as criminals either? I don't think so. Vick...definitely.

 

Vick is a FORMER criminal.

Semantics, the point I was making was received by the non-hair splitters..

Hitler was a remarkable leader in that sense.

Rather than refer to you as one, I will just say that that's moronic....

I'm sick of hearing about Tebow.

Then turn off the sports news. It's not his doing.

I've always been a fan. No doubt he's raised the game of those around him. Den has also caught breaks w injuries, turnovers etc. While I'm not totally sold on him yet there's no denying they have a formula to win rt now. The thing nobobody I see talking about that impresses me is the best player on his offense is a backup RB (Magahee). They traded the top WR in Llyod. If he gets skill around him then yikes! Also people forget about the lockout. That basically almost makes him a rookie this year.

He has a windup but when you get out of the pocket like he+Ben then it's a bear to cover people! His work ethic makes me think his form will get better. They say he's not great under center....well stay in shotgun! That wears me out in the NFL when those coaches don't get it! They finally did at Den. They went to him and asked him what he ran at Florida. Team like Phily is great example. Pay for #2 press man corner in football + play him in zone or off man!

You are a wackadoo! :lol:

 

Rather than refer to you as one, I will just say that that's moronic....

Notice I said "in that sense". I specifically highlighted a portion of UKMF's post that said:

 

There's no denying that he has that entire team and locker room buying into him and whatever is going on with that team.

 

Substitute "team and locker room" with "country" and tell me how that is any different?

Then turn off the sports news. It's not his doing.

He makes Superbowl commercials for an evangelical Christian group and says God spoke to him during the game. Surely you don't believe he is completely innocent in all of this.

Then turn off the sports news. It's not his doing.

 

Thanks for the sound advice.

 

I don't watch sports news all that much. But I do watch football and surf the occasional sports forum. And I'm sick of hearing about him.

Vick is a FORMER criminal.

 

He's a convicted felon who would likely still be murdering dogs if he wasn't caught a few years ago.

I prefer the media to report on stories that make me laugh. Which is why I tend to gravitate towards guys who have press conferences about "practice", pay their fines with "straight cash homey", or "make it rain"!

 

Those make me laugh but also make me sad knowing that they'll likely produce off spring that aren't as talented but equally as dumb......