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Why don't the Kenton County Commonwealth Attorney and Beechwood have confidence in...

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Seems like someone rubbed the PD the wrong way. I don't have the time to point out all things, but the pulling the gun I can see, if someone called and said there is someone "prowling suspiciously" around a house, they don't know what they are going to go up against. Many of these things could be brought to the council and PD, if I was pulled over for the left turn thing, I would have pressed this right away with the PD and council. Also not known is the conduct of people who are appoached by police.

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Guess which of these events isn't true:

 

  • A) Fort Mitchell police officer stopped and questioned a 11-year old for taking his trash out to the street late at night. Seemed "suspicious". Officer then proceeded to get out of the patrol car, and walk said 11-year old to the front door of the house, ring the doorbell, and then question the parents as to whether or not "they were aware that their son was out so late".
  • B) Fort Mitchell police officer pulled a gun on a 22 year old for "prowling suspiciously" in the backyard of his parents' house. Said 22 year old had, in fact, gotten home at 1:00am, and was turning off and reeling up the hose after his father had accidentally left the sprinkler run.
  • C) Fort Mitchell police officer pulled over a 20 year old resident for turning left out of a street with a sign reading, "No left turns during the hours of 7:30am-8:30am, or 2:00pm-3:00pm". It was noon. Same police officer pulled over the same resident under the same circumstances TWO MORE TIMES over the next three months. On the third occasion, the officer actually wrote up a ticket for insubordination, after resident was standoffish for being pulled over three times for the same bogus charge. Charge was thrown out in court, as the police officer had no cause to stop the resident in the first place.
  • D) Two Fort Mitchell police officers stopped and temporarily detained 3 teenage "suspects" who were walking down Dixie Highway after one of the officers they saw an empty plastic baggie laying on the ground on the sidewalk where they had passed. "Suspects" were stopped and searched for drugs, relating to the "paraphernalia" located on the ground by the officers. The baggie did not belong to the teenagers, and contained cheese-cracker crumbs. This was confirmed by the second officer, who arrived upon request to provide backup.
  • E) A 25 year old Elsmere resident was drinking at a bar in Covington. Resident, realizing he was not able to drive, hailed a taxi, and asked if it would be okay to stop at the PNC Bank in Expressway Plaza on Dixie Highway so he could withdraw cash to pay the cab fare. The taxi driver approved. When the Elsmere resident stepped out of the taxi at the bank, a Fort Mitchell police officer pulled into the space next to the taxi, walked up, and questioned the gentleman as to what he was doing. Sensing that the subject was intoxicated, the officer administered a field sobriety test, and arrested the subject for public intoxication, also dis-allowing said subject to pay for his cab ride. Suspect was jailed overnight and charged with public intoxication, and failure to pay for services rendered. Both charges were thrown out in court.
  • F) None of the above.

 

A, B (depending on what "pulled a gun" entailed) and D, I have no problem with. The others are too over the top based on the information you present.

Wow, I guess it is true, firefighters and police do not get along. I am sure there could be a number of reasons why they would contact KSP. Pure speculation at this point.

So Sanders is/was on the FMFD? If so then this should be more clear, when you look at it they way it was mentioned below, "close-knit and to avoid any appearance of bias". If the FMPD investigated it, one side or the other will cry bias and they simply did not want that appearance. It could be just as RomanEmpire mentioned, someone involved is just too close to a person or group involved.

 

"They notified the schools attorney who then took the case to Fort Mitchell Police and the Commonwealth's Attorney.

 

According to Sanders because Fort Mitchell is so "close-knit" It was determined that to avoid any appearance of bias in the investigation that the Kentucky State Police would handle the case."

 

 

http://www.wcpo.com/dpp/news/region_northern_kentucky/fort_mitchell/former-booster-charged-with-theft

Please tell me all are not true.

 

 

 

Guess which of these events isn't true:

 

  • A) Fort Mitchell police officer stopped and questioned a 11-year old for taking his trash out to the street late at night. Seemed "suspicious". Officer then proceeded to get out of the patrol car, and walk said 11-year old to the front door of the house, ring the doorbell, and then question the parents as to whether or not "they were aware that their son was out so late".
  • B) Fort Mitchell police officer pulled a gun on a 22 year old for "prowling suspiciously" in the backyard of his parents' house. Said 22 year old had, in fact, gotten home at 1:00am, and was turning off and reeling up the hose after his father had accidentally left the sprinkler run.
  • C) Fort Mitchell police officer pulled over a 20 year old resident for turning left out of a street with a sign reading, "No left turns during the hours of 7:30am-8:30am, or 2:00pm-3:00pm". It was noon. Same police officer pulled over the same resident under the same circumstances TWO MORE TIMES over the next three months. On the third occasion, the officer actually wrote up a ticket for insubordination, after resident was standoffish for being pulled over three times for the same bogus charge. Charge was thrown out in court, as the police officer had no cause to stop the resident in the first place.
  • D) Two Fort Mitchell police officers stopped and temporarily detained 3 teenage "suspects" who were walking down Dixie Highway after one of the officers they saw an empty plastic baggie laying on the ground on the sidewalk where they had passed. "Suspects" were stopped and searched for drugs, relating to the "paraphernalia" located on the ground by the officers. The baggie did not belong to the teenagers, and contained cheese-cracker crumbs. This was confirmed by the second officer, who arrived upon request to provide backup.
  • E) A 25 year old Elsmere resident was drinking at a bar in Covington. Resident, realizing he was not able to drive, hailed a taxi, and asked if it would be okay to stop at the PNC Bank in Expressway Plaza on Dixie Highway so he could withdraw cash to pay the cab fare. The taxi driver approved. When the Elsmere resident stepped out of the taxi at the bank, a Fort Mitchell police officer pulled into the space next to the taxi, walked up, and questioned the gentleman as to what he was doing. Sensing that the subject was intoxicated, the officer administered a field sobriety test, and arrested the subject for public intoxication, also dis-allowing said subject to pay for his cab ride. Suspect was jailed overnight and charged with public intoxication, and failure to pay for services rendered. Both charges were thrown out in court.
  • F) None of the above.

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Based on the "close-nit" comment I am even more convinced Sanders isn't telling the whole truth...

 

Here is what I heard allegedly happened. I understand Fort Mitchell PD was investigating the case but the old Super and School Board were considering sweeping everything under the rug because it may have made some of them and/or Beechwood look bad. Fort Mitchell was put in a bind because they were asked to investigate the case yet they may not have had full cooperation from the "victim" so the case was moving slow. Once the new Super (and a school board change too I believe but am not sure on this) was put in place the new administration pushed hard for a quick prosecution of the case and some of those people pushing were upset that the alleged perpetrator may have lined up another position giving her access to free flowing money again. The new administration was allegedly unhappy with Fort Mitchell dragging their feet so they went to Rob Sanders and asked him what could be done and he is the one that took the investigation away from Fort Mitchell and brought in KSP. Again, allegedly on all of this. I can't confirm it all but I think it is in the ballpark.

 

Anyone?

^ A lot of that rings true. Here are facts I am aware of pertaining to that story:

 

1. This theft was not a recent discovery. People in the community have know about it for over a year.

2. When this theft was discovered, there was a different superintendent. The superintendent change happened in August of this year, just before school started.

3. As to the school board question, the school board change was last fall and only one member changed so the board is basically the same.

4. Concerning the perpetrator getting a new position with access to cash flow, I have no knowledge about that except that I am 99% certain it was not a position connected to Beechwood. I don't know why "they" were upset about her getting this new position other than they just said it isn't right that she should have that kind of job after what happened. I can certainly understand people feeling that isn't right and she should not be in a position controlling money.

 

So that story has the ring of truth in it.

 

I feel sad for the family and the impact on them because of the perpetrator's actions.

Guess which of these events isn't true:

 

  • A) Fort Mitchell police officer stopped and questioned a 11-year old for taking his trash out to the street late at night. Seemed "suspicious". Officer then proceeded to get out of the patrol car, and walk said 11-year old to the front door of the house, ring the doorbell, and then question the parents as to whether or not "they were aware that their son was out so late".
  • B) Fort Mitchell police officer pulled a gun on a 22 year old for "prowling suspiciously" in the backyard of his parents' house. Said 22 year old had, in fact, gotten home at 1:00am, and was turning off and reeling up the hose after his father had accidentally left the sprinkler run.
  • C) Fort Mitchell police officer pulled over a 20 year old resident for turning left out of a street with a sign reading, "No left turns during the hours of 7:30am-8:30am, or 2:00pm-3:00pm". It was noon. Same police officer pulled over the same resident under the same circumstances TWO MORE TIMES over the next three months. On the third occasion, the officer actually wrote up a ticket for insubordination, after resident was standoffish for being pulled over three times for the same bogus charge. Charge was thrown out in court, as the police officer had no cause to stop the resident in the first place.
  • D) Two Fort Mitchell police officers stopped and temporarily detained 3 teenage "suspects" who were walking down Dixie Highway after one of the officers they saw an empty plastic baggie laying on the ground on the sidewalk where they had passed. "Suspects" were stopped and searched for drugs, relating to the "paraphernalia" located on the ground by the officers. The baggie did not belong to the teenagers, and contained cheese-cracker crumbs. This was confirmed by the second officer, who arrived upon request to provide backup.
  • E) A 25 year old Elsmere resident was drinking at a bar in Covington. Resident, realizing he was not able to drive, hailed a taxi, and asked if it would be okay to stop at the PNC Bank in Expressway Plaza on Dixie Highway so he could withdraw cash to pay the cab fare. The taxi driver approved. When the Elsmere resident stepped out of the taxi at the bank, a Fort Mitchell police officer pulled into the space next to the taxi, walked up, and questioned the gentleman as to what he was doing. Sensing that the subject was intoxicated, the officer administered a field sobriety test, and arrested the subject for public intoxication, also dis-allowing said subject to pay for his cab ride. Suspect was jailed overnight and charged with public intoxication, and failure to pay for services rendered. Both charges were thrown out in court.
  • F) None of the above.

 

 

Sounds like the cops have it out for young men in the Fort Mitchell area! :D

Here is what I heard allegedly happened. I understand Fort Mitchell PD was investigating the case but the old Super and School Board were considering sweeping everything under the rug because it may have made some of them and/or Beechwood look bad. Fort Mitchell was put in a bind because they were asked to investigate the case yet they may not have had full cooperation

This disturbs me! I would want to know if the accused was approached and told to pay back the money or some arrangement before they decided to "sweep it under the rug". How much money are we talking about? I know it's over $10,000.00, but how much over? Why go to the police then turn around and not give full cooperation into the investigation? Sounds like "sweeping it under the rug" is now going to put even a bigger black eye on the school board and the school.

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Voice, what is your opinion on the sweeping it under the rug theory?

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This disturbs me! I would want to know if the accused was approached and told to pay back the money or some arrangement before they decided to "sweep it under the rug". How much money are we talking about? I know it's over $10,000.00, but how much over? Why go to the police then turn around and not give full cooperation into the investigation? Sounds like "sweeping it under the rug" is now going to put even a bigger black eye on the school board and the school.

 

SG, it happens all the time where someone/victim reports a crime and then they give you less than full cooperation.

Guess which of these events isn't true:

 

  • A) Fort Mitchell police officer stopped and questioned a 11-year old for taking his trash out to the street late at night. Seemed "suspicious". Officer then proceeded to get out of the patrol car, and walk said 11-year old to the front door of the house, ring the doorbell, and then question the parents as to whether or not "they were aware that their son was out so late".
  • B) Fort Mitchell police officer pulled a gun on a 22 year old for "prowling suspiciously" in the backyard of his parents' house. Said 22 year old had, in fact, gotten home at 1:00am, and was turning off and reeling up the hose after his father had accidentally left the sprinkler run.
  • C) Fort Mitchell police officer pulled over a 20 year old resident for turning left out of a street with a sign reading, "No left turns during the hours of 7:30am-8:30am, or 2:00pm-3:00pm". It was noon. Same police officer pulled over the same resident under the same circumstances TWO MORE TIMES over the next three months. On the third occasion, the officer actually wrote up a ticket for insubordination, after resident was standoffish for being pulled over three times for the same bogus charge. Charge was thrown out in court, as the police officer had no cause to stop the resident in the first place.
  • D) Two Fort Mitchell police officers stopped and temporarily detained 3 teenage "suspects" who were walking down Dixie Highway after one of the officers they saw an empty plastic baggie laying on the ground on the sidewalk where they had passed. "Suspects" were stopped and searched for drugs, relating to the "paraphernalia" located on the ground by the officers. The baggie did not belong to the teenagers, and contained cheese-cracker crumbs. This was confirmed by the second officer, who arrived upon request to provide backup.
  • E) A 25 year old Elsmere resident was drinking at a bar in Covington. Resident, realizing he was not able to drive, hailed a taxi, and asked if it would be okay to stop at the PNC Bank in Expressway Plaza on Dixie Highway so he could withdraw cash to pay the cab fare. The taxi driver approved. When the Elsmere resident stepped out of the taxi at the bank, a Fort Mitchell police officer pulled into the space next to the taxi, walked up, and questioned the gentleman as to what he was doing. Sensing that the subject was intoxicated, the officer administered a field sobriety test, and arrested the subject for public intoxication, also dis-allowing said subject to pay for his cab ride. Suspect was jailed overnight and charged with public intoxication, and failure to pay for services rendered. Both charges were thrown out in court.
  • F) None of the above.

 

Now we've heard one side of these stories. I'm sure a lot of this could be cleared up by hearing a little bit of the other side. While it is possible that the officers were wrong in some of these situations, that doesn't mean they were definitely wrong in all of them.

Guess which of these events isn't true:

 

  • A) Fort Mitchell police officer stopped and questioned a 11-year old for taking his trash out to the street late at night. Seemed "suspicious". Officer then proceeded to get out of the patrol car, and walk said 11-year old to the front door of the house, ring the doorbell, and then question the parents as to whether or not "they were aware that their son was out so late".
  • B) Fort Mitchell police officer pulled a gun on a 22 year old for "prowling suspiciously" in the backyard of his parents' house. Said 22 year old had, in fact, gotten home at 1:00am, and was turning off and reeling up the hose after his father had accidentally left the sprinkler run.
  • C) Fort Mitchell police officer pulled over a 20 year old resident for turning left out of a street with a sign reading, "No left turns during the hours of 7:30am-8:30am, or 2:00pm-3:00pm". It was noon. Same police officer pulled over the same resident under the same circumstances TWO MORE TIMES over the next three months. On the third occasion, the officer actually wrote up a ticket for insubordination, after resident was standoffish for being pulled over three times for the same bogus charge. Charge was thrown out in court, as the police officer had no cause to stop the resident in the first place.
  • D) Two Fort Mitchell police officers stopped and temporarily detained 3 teenage "suspects" who were walking down Dixie Highway after one of the officers they saw an empty plastic baggie laying on the ground on the sidewalk where they had passed. "Suspects" were stopped and searched for drugs, relating to the "paraphernalia" located on the ground by the officers. The baggie did not belong to the teenagers, and contained cheese-cracker crumbs. This was confirmed by the second officer, who arrived upon request to provide backup.
  • E) A 25 year old Elsmere resident was drinking at a bar in Covington. Resident, realizing he was not able to drive, hailed a taxi, and asked if it would be okay to stop at the PNC Bank in Expressway Plaza on Dixie Highway so he could withdraw cash to pay the cab fare. The taxi driver approved. When the Elsmere resident stepped out of the taxi at the bank, a Fort Mitchell police officer pulled into the space next to the taxi, walked up, and questioned the gentleman as to what he was doing. Sensing that the subject was intoxicated, the officer administered a field sobriety test, and arrested the subject for public intoxication, also dis-allowing said subject to pay for his cab ride. Suspect was jailed overnight and charged with public intoxication, and failure to pay for services rendered. Both charges were thrown out in court.
  • F) None of the above.

 

None of these instances mean they are incompetent. It would seem some of the officers are probably overzealous though. And in a couple of these instances, I don't have a problem. I would say many middle/upper class suburbs probably have these same types of instances as there just isn't much crime.

If the fact that Ft Mitchell is "close-nit" is the reason for KSP becoming involved wouldn't that now set the precedent for any future investigation of any sort?

 

Has Sanders now reduced Ft Mitchell PD to writing tickets?

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