Tupac was a lyrical genius.

 

I will certainly give him that, he really was a true poet. He's what I think rap was meant to be, not just a couple of good hooks with a nice chorus.

I dont think the info he would be sending to those people would be unbiased. so he may have continued to missinform the missinformed.

 

Wait, you mean there is someone with an extremely large following doling out unbiased political information?

That's pretty disheartening but certainly explains A LOT.

 

What is so disheartening about it and what does it explain?

He may have cared about alot of people, but I highly doubt he would've given two shampoo's about you and I.

 

I tend to disagree. He really cared about his fans, especially his white fans. Go watch a couple of his interviews and he will tell you the same thing. He said that he loved the fact that white kids in the sub urbs were not only getting his message but being fans. He said it would be these white fans who are going to be giving his family jobs. 2pacs first big break came because a record exec's daughter got a hold of his stuff and made her dad sign him. So as much as most entertainers are probably not going to give two shampoo's, I really don't think Pac is one of them. If we ran into him on the street back in those days and said whats up, if not busy he would def take the time to talk IMO.

I disagree...with approval ratings and the fact that the Obama administration is loathed by many....he'd probably still scream the 'we ain't ready to see a black President'. It's too bad he isn't here. He'd keep a lot of misinformed people informed about the current political landscape.

There are definitely people out there whose disapproval and loathing stems from Obama's race but for the most part I'd say it's mainly just partisan politics. I would think someone an intellectual such as Shakur would realize that.

I tend to disagree. He really cared about his fans, especially his white fans. Go watch a couple of his interviews and he will tell you the same thing. He said that he loved the fact that white kids in the sub urbs were not only getting his message but being fans. He said it would be these white fans who are going to be giving his family jobs. 2pacs first big break came because a record exec's daughter got a hold of his stuff and made her dad sign him. So as much as most entertainers are probably not going to give two shampoo's, I really don't think Pac is one of them. If we ran into him on the street back in those days and said whats up, if not busy he would def take the time to talk IMO.

You have a link to one of these interviews?

What Dolamite said....I'll also add......Tupac was to my generation what Malcolm X/Martin Luther King Jr was to my parents generation. He still has a tremendous influence over my generation 15 years after his death. I know people will say....how can you compare a rapper/actor/entertainer to Malcolm X/Martin Luther King Jr....easy.....ask most black people(secondary educated or not) to name a more influential black man to black people between the ages of 30-45(maybe even 20-45) than Tupac. If they are being honest they know there wasn't a more influential black man for that age group. He wasn't just a thug, in fact, most people knew he was a studio gangsta anyways. Everyone knew that was an act. Deep down Tupac was an intellectual trapped and in love with the intoxication of his persona.

 

I'll agree with that, and I was thinking and wanting to say the same thing. Pac was that figure, only a lot more controversial and got into a lot more trouble which gave him a black eye to most in the general public. On principal alone though he was that guy for not just the generation of those growing up in the 90's, but for someone like myself who graduated in 2005. I still feel Pac is influencing people the same way Malcom X and those guys did in their day. The saddest thing though today is someone like Kanye West is probably more influential than Pac and that is sad.

You have a link to one of these interviews?

 

He states it a couple times in the "Resurrection" movie I mentioned earlier, but I can go and try to find them on youtube. I am getting ready for work right now so It may be later when I get home before I have the time to find the ones I am specifically talking about.

There are definitely people out there whose disapproval and loathing stems from Obama's race but for the most part I'd say it's mainly just partisan politics. I would think someone an intellectual such as Shakur would realize that.

 

I do as well which is why I said I think he would inform the misinformed. Meaning, I think he would say a whole lot more about the issue other than just saying 'they don't like Obama because he's black.'. I definitely think he would say 'we ain't ready for a black president' but his reasoning about Obama would go deeper than just the color of Obama's skin. I think he would be one of the few who could properly convey that message to the masses who believe that Obama is only hated on because he is black. The knowledge he would drop in a sit down situation on shows like The View/Bill Maher/John Stewart would be unforgettable.

I do as well which is why I said I think he would inform the misinformed. Meaning, I think he would say a whole lot more about the issue other than just saying 'they don't like Obama because he's black.'. I definitely think he would say 'we ain't ready for a black president' but his reasoning about Obama would go deeper than just the color of Obama's skin. I think he would be one of the few who could properly convey that message to the masses who believe that Obama is only hated on because he is black. The knowledge he would drop in a sit down situation on shows like The View/Bill Maher/John Stewart would be unforgettable.

Sorry, I misinterpreted your post. With you now though. :thumb:

I'll agree with that, and I was thinking and wanting to say the same thing. Pac was that figure, only a lot more controversial and got into a lot more trouble which gave him a black eye to most in the general public. On principal alone though he was that guy for not just the generation of those growing up in the 90's, but for someone like myself who graduated in 2005. I still feel Pac is influencing people the same way Malcom X and those guys did in their day. The saddest thing though today is someone like Kanye West is probably more influential than Pac and that is sad.

 

I think that depends on the demographic. For 25 and up I think Pac would hold more influence. Maybe even have to go to 30 and up. That age group sees both men for who they are. Younger than 25 most likely don't have an accurate view on how Pac's activism and intelligence puts him on a cultural level Kanye will never reach.

Sorry, I misinterpreted your post. With you now though. :thumb:

 

It's all good.

 

 

I'd pay top dollar to see him and Bill O'Reilly or Sean Hannity have a mediated interview. It'd have to be mediated so Pac could talk also.

I think that depends on the demographic. For 25 and up I think Pac would hold more influence. Maybe even have to go to 30 and up. That age group sees both men for who they are. Younger than 25 most likely don't have an accurate view on how Pac's activism and intelligence puts him on a cultural level Kanye will never reach.

I'm 28 so I'd say you can at least go down that far in age. I was quite the fan of Pac when he passed away. I can remember watching TRL waiting for "California Love" to be shown (still a super cool video), I owned both All Eyez On Me and Me Against The World at the time of his death. After his death I went back and explored his earlier releases.

Any one who thinks that Suge Knight is responsible for Tupac's death needs to spend a few minutes listening to "Hit'em Up"

 

Not real hard to figure out who is responsible after hearing that one.

^ A lot of people would agree. One of the best opening lines in any song of all time. I love that song. :lol: