He is an ADULT doing something that is legal!

 

So if Pres. Obama goes to masterdam adn smokes weed in public (which is legal there) is that ok since it is legal and he is an adult.

You said a congressman who sexts should be forced to resign immediately but one that gets caught cheating can serve out his term?

 

Is sexting illegal? Was it a government phone he used?

Why would I not want to have a beer with my preacher, do you really want me to answer that?

 

The President should be setting a good example tyo follow and drinking/smoking isnt one of them.

 

Yes, I want an answer to that. Alcohol is legal, and no where in the Bible does it say you should completely abstain from drinking alcohol.

 

So it's not illegal and it's not morally wrong. I'm trying to figure out what the issue with it would be.

So if Pres. Obama goes to masterdam adn smokes weed in public (which is legal there) is that ok since it is legal and he is an adult.

 

Completely different. Marijuana use in the US is (wrongfully IMO) illegal. As President, even while overseas I would expect him to follow the laws of our land (as long as he's not breaking the laws of the country he's in, in doing so).

So if Pres. Obama goes to masterdam adn smokes weed in public (which is legal there) is that ok since it is legal and he is an adult.

 

Apples and oranges. If drinking was illegal here then you'd have a good argument.

Is sexting illegal? Was it a government phone he used?

 

Why does it matter if it's legal. You're talking about moral decisions.

 

For the record, it's not illegal.

I wont be a hypocrite, I have drank before and I do go to church. I would not feel good with sitting down with my preacher and drinking a beer or would I feel good knowing my preacher is watching me drink a beer on TV.

 

It is not setting a good example IMO.

 

If the President wants to drink, then fine, dont do it openly and set a bad example. But that is my opinion on the matter.

 

Drinking in moderation is NOT a bad example. There is absolutely nothing wrong about it. If you choose not to drink, that is fine for you. Don't impose your values on the rest of us.

Drinking in moderation is NOT a bad example. There is absolutely nothing wrong about it. If you choose not to drink, that is fine for you. Don't impose your values on the rest of us.

Do the "rest of you" prefer to have no values?

Do the "rest of you" prefer to have no values?

 

Doesn't everyone have values?

Doesn't everyone have values?

I suppose. But obviously some are offended by ref's values.

I suppose. But obviously some are offended by ref's values.

 

No one is offended by them. I'm simply trying to understand how anyone could see the President having a beer as a bad thing. :confused:

Do the "rest of you" prefer to have no values?

 

I am quite happy with my values. Ref wanted to impose his values on others, in this case President Obama. I have a big problem with that. Regardless of what you think of his politics, this president seems to be devoted to his family and in that regard sets a great example.

I am quite happy with my values. Ref wanted to impose his values on others, in this case President Obama. I have a big problem with that. Regardless of what you think of his politics, this president seems to be devoted to his family and in that regard sets a great example.

And until Lewinsky, so did Clinton.

And until Lewinsky, so did Clinton.

 

Just so we're clear, you have issue with Obama having a beer?

Just so we're clear, you have issue with Obama having a beer?

Nope. But with regards to ref's issue, I understand his view. As a Christian, if he believes that drinking a beer leads to more beers which leads to drunkenness (and I don't think we can dispute what scripture says on drunkenness) then he believes even the outward appearance of one beer, while not in and of itself wrong according to scripture, brings reproach upon Christ. And it may be a stumbling block for someone else. I get that. Maybe ref can provide clarity, but that's what I took from that exchange.