If they would have got the first 2 right that would be 3 for delaying the game.

 

Gotcha. Still no T.

 

Your "throw the ball into the concession stands after a made basket" example is different for this reason.

 

You sometimes have a coach tell his players to do this at the end of the game when they are trailing and they have no timeouts left. His hope is that the clock will stop, a DOG warning will be given, and his D can line up. Not the case. This is an unsporting act which results in a T. Had he had his player simply step over the endline he would have gotten his desired DOG(by rule).

 

The SJU kid was not trying to stop the clock with an illegal act.

He didn't throw the ball up in the air to run out the clock or make a last second attempt at the basket. He tried to throw it to the top of the gym in celebration of a game that wasn't over. And did so after he traveled and stepped out of bounds. Strike 1, 2 and 3...

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Gotcha. Still no T.

 

Your "throw the ball into the concession stands after a made basket" example is different for this reason.

 

You sometimes have a coach tell his players to do this at the end of the game when they are trailing and they have no timeouts left. His hope is that the clock will stop, a DOG warning will be given, and his D can line up. Not the case. This is an unsporting act which results in a T. Had he had his player simply step over the endline he would have gotten his desired DOG(by rule).

 

The SJU kid was not trying to stop the clock with an illegal act.

 

My coach told us to do that in high school. He said to grab the ball out of the net and roll it to the other end of the court. We did it one game, and they only called delay of game.

From the head of NCAA officiating:

 

Adams said there wouldn't have been a technical foul called for Brownlee throwing the ball in the stands.

 

"There is no penalty for exuberance if the kid thought it was the end of the game," Adams said. "It's his ball and he's not delaying anything. Also the coaches are walking toward each other. There was a presumption that the game was over but unfortunately it doesn't sound like it was."

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6198753

 

I checked the high school rulebook(not sure if NCAA has the same language). Our DOG discussion is immaterial. This play doesn't meet any of the DOG criteria.

My coach told us to do that in high school. He said to grab the ball out of the net and roll it to the other end of the court. We did it one game, and they only called delay of game.

 

Any time there is no wording that applies to an exact situation you will get different interpretations. This would be one of those. Many believe it falls under the unsporting act provision which would result in a T. I would call it a T.

From the head of NCAA officiating:

 

Adams said there wouldn't have been a technical foul called for Brownlee throwing the ball in the stands.

 

"There is no penalty for exuberance if the kid thought it was the end of the game," Adams said. "It's his ball and he's not delaying anything. Also the coaches are walking toward each other. There was a presumption that the game was over but unfortunately it doesn't sound like it was."

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncb/news/story?id=6198753

 

I checked the high school rulebook(not sure if NCAA has the same language). Our DOG discussion is immaterial. This play doesn't meet any of the DOG criteria.

 

He is saying that he can do so because the game was over. My point that the game wasn't really over but it doesn't really matter. :lol:

You guys are getting way to caught up on arguing the rules. They missed 3 obvious calls in the closing seconds, probably because they had quit because they were tired and considered the game over. That is the real issue, refs cant declare the game over and quit doing their job.