January 17, 201115 yr 6-7....Which is quite a lot in this area. Thanks. That's a huge number for NKY. 6 - 7 more than I know.
January 17, 201115 yr While CH is a little misguided IMO, I will say that some passages in the Qu'ran are far from peaceful. The call for never surrendering in a religious war until the infidels bow to the one true god is quite scary. However the few Muslims that I know have told me that their faith in Islam calls for peace and to be honest I do not remember a passage in the Qu'ran that actually called for Muslims to be the aggressors.
January 17, 201115 yr Since Christianity is an older Religion (1st Century AD vs. 7th Century AD), is it possible that Christianity has had more time to evolve into a more peaceful expression of faith? That those 600 years (Which if you look at Reformation in the 16th and 17th Century that's only been 400 to 500 years), may account for one faith (i.e. Christianity) putting down the wholesale sword and the other hasn't had time to morph into that place? :idunno: BTW, St. Bartholomew's Day Massacre was 1572 (just one example) and was less than 450 yrs ago. The Irish Catholic/Protestant issues were this last century. When is it all ancient history? :idunno: I think he's just not seeing the link between the two. Most christians feel that the oppressive events in the past were misguided and wrong and would not support those actions to be taken again in any circumstance. Al Queda and other hate groups are misguided as well. They pervert the written words of the Qu'ran like the passage I just referenced above to brainwash people into thinking that their cause is just. It's not different from a cult IMO.
January 18, 201115 yr Author Are you a Christian? Proud and not embarassed or ashamed to say I am a Christian.
January 18, 201115 yr Proud and not embarassed or ashamed to say I am a Christian. Me, too. I am also proud that I have friends of many religious and cultural backgrounds.
January 18, 201115 yr Me, too. I am also proud that I have friends of many religious and cultural backgrounds. You should also be proud that you don't judge others based solely on their religious beliefs. :thumb:
January 19, 201115 yr Proud and not embarassed or ashamed to say I am a Christian. What if I am embarrassed for you to say it? Have you not read of the God sanctioned genocide in the Old Testament? Have you not read that God killed every human being on earth minus 1 family? Have you not read that God destroyed two whole cities and turned someone into salt simply for looking back at the cities? Have you not read that God killed a man who simply tried to keep the Ark of the Covenant from falling off of its carriage? Have you not read that God told some leaders to bash little children's heads against the rocks? Have you not read that God told some soldiers to kill all of the women and children of community - the innocent? Did you not hear that Pat Robertson or someone of his ilk ascribed the WTC bombings to God and his punishment as well as ascribing Katrina to God as well? Timothy McVeigh was a Christian. KKK members were bible carrying men. Southern Baptists fought for slavery and segregation in the south, hence SOUTHERN baptist.
January 19, 201115 yr What if I am embarrassed for you to say it? Have you not read of the God sanctioned genocide in the Old Testament? Have you not read that God killed every human being on earth minus 1 family? Have you not read that God destroyed two whole cities and turned someone into salt simply for looking back at the cities? Have you not read that God killed a man who simply tried to keep the Ark of the Covenant from falling off of its carriage? Have you not read that God told some leaders to bash little children's heads against the rocks? Have you not read that God told some soldiers to kill all of the women and children of community - the innocent? Did you not hear that Pat Robertson or someone of his ilk ascribed the WTC bombings to God and his punishment as well as ascribing Katrina to God as well? Timothy McVeigh was a Christian. KKK members were bible carrying men. Southern Baptists fought for slavery and segregation in the south, hence SOUTHERN baptist. You also left out the 30 years war when Protestant and Catholic armies spent the better part of the war depopulating Germany, the Inquisition...
January 19, 201115 yr Author What if I am embarrassed for you to say it? Have you not read of the God sanctioned genocide in the Old Testament? Have you not read that God killed every human being on earth minus 1 family? Have you not read that God destroyed two whole cities and turned someone into salt simply for looking back at the cities? Have you not read that God killed a man who simply tried to keep the Ark of the Covenant from falling off of its carriage? Have you not read that God told some leaders to bash little children's heads against the rocks? Have you not read that God told some soldiers to kill all of the women and children of community - the innocent? Did you not hear that Pat Robertson or someone of his ilk ascribed the WTC bombings to God and his punishment as well as ascribing Katrina to God as well? Timothy McVeigh was a Christian. KKK members were bible carrying men. Southern Baptists fought for slavery and segregation in the south, hence SOUTHERN baptist. You can go on and on and on. Fact is I don't care if you are embarrassed or not. All that matters is how and what I think and believe. There are many who feel and think the way I do. Do I feel all Muslims are evil? NO! As a matter of fact a lot of Christians are evil. But I do believe there is more motive behind all of these feel sorry for Muslims and quit celebrating Christan Holidays because it hurts our feelings and we don't believe so you shouldn't either, even though it has been in your culture for hundreds of years. Have you ever heard give an inch and take a mile. Well that is what is happening right in front of you.
January 19, 201115 yr You can go on and on and on. Fact is I don't care if you are embarrassed or not. All that matters is how and what I think and believe. There are many who feel and think the way I do. Do I feel all Muslims are evil? NO! As a matter of fact a lot of Christians are evil. But I do believe there is more motive behind all of these feel sorry for Muslims and quit celebrating Christan Holidays because it hurts our feelings and we don't believe so you shouldn't either, even though it has been in your culture for hundreds of years. Have you ever heard give an inch and take a mile. Well that is what is happening right in front of you. Problem is, in your scenario an inch turns into tens of thousands of miles.
January 19, 201115 yr You can go on and on and on. Fact is I don't care if you are embarrassed or not. All that matters is how and what I think and believe. There are many who feel and think the way I do. Do I feel all Muslims are evil? NO! As a matter of fact a lot of Christians are evil. But I do believe there is more motive behind all of these feel sorry for Muslims and quit celebrating Christan Holidays because it hurts our feelings and we don't believe so you shouldn't either, even though it has been in your culture for hundreds of years. Have you ever heard give an inch and take a mile. Well that is what is happening right in front of you. I celebrated Christmas, my kids celebrated Christmas even did some fun stuff at school, I will celebrate Easter my kids will Celebrate Easter and I know something will be mentioned at school. There is no attack. The greatest threats to my family worshiping right now are my children s activities. It is not some atheist or other religious person taking my rights away it is how busy I make my life. I am a principal at a public school, I try to pray AT SCHOOL every morning, I have a couple of devotionals sent to me on-line AT SCHOOL, there is no threat, nothing has been taken away.
January 19, 201115 yr Author I celebrated all of the following too, I hope we can continue to enjoy these things also.
January 19, 201115 yr Question, Crazy Horse- What if a Muslim was elected governor of Alabama, and one of the first things he did was go to a mosque and declare "If you don't believe it Allah and Mohammed you are NOT my brothers and sisters!" What then? Is he a terrible, radical, typical Muslim?
January 19, 201115 yr Author Question, Crazy Horse- What if a Muslim was elected governor of Alabama, and one of the first things he did was go to a mosque and declare "If you don't believe it Allah and Mohammed you are NOT my brothers and sisters!" What then? Is he a terrible, radical, typical Muslim? But I do believe in Allah, I just call him God. I believe in Mohammed to, just not the way Muslims do. He was a real person. I guess I'm not his brother then, as long as he is fair and doesnt discriminate against non-brothers.
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