November 7, 201015 yr I would not vote for Newton, the recent allegations along with the theft stuff at Florida is enough to keep him from getting my vote. If he wins it, it might very well be stripped in 2 or 3 years just like Reggie Bush's was.
November 7, 201015 yr I would not vote for Newton, the recent allegations along with the theft stuff at Florida is enough to keep him from getting my vote. If he wins it, it might very well be stripped in 2 or 3 years just like Reggie Bush's was. And all this time I thought the award was for the best football player, not best person...
November 7, 201015 yr And all this time I thought the award was for the best football player, not best person... From the Heisman Memorial Trophy Wesbite: "The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.” Where is Cam's integrity? http://www.heisman.com/trust/mission_statement.php
November 7, 201015 yr I'll also add some of us measure a football player by their actions off the field almost as much as on too.
November 8, 201015 yr From the Heisman Memorial Trophy Wesbite: "The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.” Where is Cam's integrity? http://www.heisman.com/trust/mission_statement.php I'm all for having an issue with his off field troubles at Florida, but the recent stuff should NOT be held against him at this time. That is a major problem in this country. It is still innocent until proven guilty. Having said that, as long as teams (most SEC teams I might add) are willing to take players with checkered pasts and criminal records, I have no issue with them winning awards.
November 8, 201015 yr From the Heisman Memorial Trophy Wesbite: "The Heisman Memorial Trophy annually recognizes the outstanding college football player whose performance best exhibits the pursuit of excellence with integrity.” Where is Cam's integrity? http://www.heisman.com/trust/mission_statement.php I'm sorry, but what rules has he broken? As a lawyer you should know better than most that it's innocent until proven guilty.
November 8, 201015 yr I'm sorry, but what rules has he broken? As a lawyer you should know better than most that it's innocent until proven guilty. Well he was involved in a theft ring while at Florida and threw a bunch of stolen property out the window to try and avoid being caught. That alone is enough for me. And you can look back I was not thrilled with Ole Miss taking Masoli either. I'd much prefer athletes kids can look up to than people who set bad examples. And all this stuff about Cam sounds really fishy, I let my dad decide for me and he decided Auburn, Dad's church was about to be condemned by the state and at the last minute they show up with all the money they need to do a complete overhaul of the building after not being able to raise the money for 2 years.
November 8, 201015 yr Well he was involved in a bunch of theft while at Florida. That alone is enough for me. And you can look back I was not thrilled with Ole Miss taking Masoli either. I'd much prefer athletes kids can look up to than people who set bad examples. And all this stuff about Cam sounds really fishy, I let my dad decide for me and he decided Auburn, Dad's church was about to be condemned by the state and at the last minute they show up with all the money they need to do a complete overhaul of the building after not being able to raise the money for 2 years. The fact that want kids to look up to athletes is funny. Athletes are the last people kids should be looking up to.
November 8, 201015 yr The fact that want kids to look up to athletes is funny. Athletes are the last people kids should be looking up to. That I can definitely agree with, but it is a fact. And we as adults don't help it any because we do seem to forgive people of anything they do if they can play ball. Well unless your name is OJ.
November 9, 201015 yr New reports that Cam was caught cheating 3 different times at UF. This is bad news for him.
November 9, 201015 yr New reports that Cam was caught cheating 3 different times at UF. This is bad news for him. It is bad news for him. Any truth to the reports/rumors that Urban Meyer is behind all the Cam Newton info that's being released.
November 9, 201015 yr I'd not be suprised if he was behind all of it. I think it looks even worse on UF that he wasn't kicked off the team or out of school if he was charged with a crime and caught cheating 3 times. They absolutely do not care what kind of citizens they have on their team.
November 9, 201015 yr I'd not be suprised if he was behind all of it. I think it looks even worse on UF that he wasn't kicked off the team or out of school if he was charged with a crime and caught cheating 3 times. They absolutely do not care what kind of citizens they have on their team. Yep, this is making Urban Meyer look terrible IMO.
November 9, 201015 yr I'd not be suprised if he was behind all of it. I think it looks even worse on UF that he wasn't kicked off the team or out of school if he was charged with a crime and caught cheating 3 times. They absolutely do not care what kind of citizens they have on their team. From what the Fox article that broke it says, Newton would have been expelled after a hearing in the spring semester, (the hearing was set under university policy, not Urban Meyers), but because he left that December the hearing never happened.
November 9, 201015 yr Turned in a paper of someone else, just put his name on it, the professor came up to a student and asked where his paper was? Cam got caught, and what HT said is true, and like someone mentioned the Heisman folks are gonna be really careful this time, so it doesn't look good for him. But, to be fair, this happened at Florida, does it have to stay with him? I don't think so, it should be what he has done this season, and shouldn't have to carry his Sin his whole life, Man I hate it when I'm fair with Auburn people. :idunno:
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