There is no specific rule for an umpire being able to eject a fan, but Bruce Froemming, who worked a record 37 years as a major league umpire, said Wednesday the umpire has the authority to eject a fan who has crossed the boundaries of decency.

 

"It's been done before. Did it several times myself," said Froemming, now working for Major League Baseball as a special assistant.

 

Froemming, in fact, was sitting in the stands Tuesday night at Miller Park with his wife when a fan, later identified as Sean Ottow, 44, of Waukesha, Wis., was ejected by home plate umpire Bob Davidson for heckling Cardinals catcher Yadier Molina.

 

Froemming said the fan, who was wearing a Milwaukee Brewers jersey, had used vulgarity in his jeering of Molina. "Davidson did what you do when there's profanity in the stands with women and children sitting there," Froemming said. "He told security to get the guy out."

 

Before Wednesday night's game, Molina said he hadn't heard anything other than Davidson saying, "I'm going to throw that guy out."

 

"What's the big deal?" Molina said.

 

Cardinals pitching coach Dave Duncan, who much earlier had been ejected by Davidson, said Molina had told him that profanity had not been used.

 

The issue here probably is a gray one if you consider that profanity has several parts in its definition. Some of those around the fan say they didn't hear any swear words. But, according to at least two others, vulgarity was involved.

 

http://www.stltoday.com/sports/baseb...c159fd0fe.html

So a fan gets thrown out because a player can't control his actions? Doesn't seem right to me.

 

The fan got thrown out because he ran his mouth too much and crossed a line.

The fan got thrown out because he ran his mouth too much and crossed a line.

 

That is not what the post that I quoted said. It said that the fan got tossed because Molina was going to go after him.

What? Because he might have called him a queer or something? I officiated football for 10 years. I was called every name in the book by the fans. You want to guess how many fans I had tossed in my career?

 

"Queer" doesn't get you ejected (of course I haven't heard that in 30 years). My guess is there were extra adjectives and a term different than "queer."

That is not what the post that I quoted said. It said that the fan got tossed because Molina was going to go after him.

 

I highly doubt Molina was going to go after him. I'm sure fans heckle Molina all the time and he's been in the league since 04. So why now would he go after him?

I highly doubt Molina was going to go after him. I'm sure fans heckle Molina all the time and he's been in the league since 04. So why now would he go after him?

 

I'm sure he wasn't either. I was just replying to what Clyde had said about it. What would Molina do, go through the net to get to him? lol.

That is not what the post that I quoted said. It said that the fan got tossed because Molina was going to go after him.

 

Fine. Why was he going to go after him?

Fine. Why was he going to go after him?

 

I don't know Clyde...you're the one who posted it.

So a fan gets thrown out because a player can't control his actions? Doesn't seem right to me.

 

You said the fan got thrown out because the player was upset. I said he shouldn't run his mouth.

 

What's the issue here?

You said the fan got thrown out because the player was upset. I said he shouldn't run his mouth.

 

What's the issue here?

 

The issue is that nobody has posted what he ACTUALLY said.

I find it funny that it's assumed Molina had the guy thrown with 20 post talking about what a baby Molina is for doing. The truth comes out that it was all the ump and it's still proof some how that Molina is a thin skinned baby.

The issue is that nobody has posted what he ACTUALLY said.

 

The ump said it was sexual slurs. Use your imagination. Here's what I can guarantee wasn't said:

 

You're a homosexual.

 

You're a darn queer.

 

You are for gay marriage.

 

You are a fan of Richard Simmons.

 

Your imagination can probably come up with what was said.

 

Unless Bob Davidson is lying something offensive was said. Just like we said in the "fight in the stands" thread your ability to pay for a ticket doesn't give you the right to run your mouth with offensive language so this guy probably got what he deserved REGARDLESS of whose idea it was to run him.

I find it funny that it's assumed Molina had the guy thrown with 20 post talking about what a baby Molina is for doing. The truth comes out that it was all the ump and it's still proof some how that Molina is a thin skinned baby.

 

We're fans. We get upset when Billy Packer doesn't pick us to win a game. We get upset when the Cardinals run roughshod over us. We get upset when Steelers fans talk trash.

 

It's what we do.

Molina was quoted as saying no vulgarity was used. It sure sounds like Davidson was lying.

We're fans. We get upset when Billy Packer doesn't pick us to win a game. We get upset when the Cardinals run roughshod over us. We get upset when Steelers fans talk trash.

 

It's what we do.

 

It's what we do but we have to do it the right way.