August 11, 201016 yr Good move or bad move? With the NCAA investigating violations at several major programs this summer could this be a trend by coaches to protect their programs? How much of what goes on between NFL scouts/player agents and college players do head coaches know about? Could it significantly hurt the players if this were to become the norm across major college programs? I think Saban is obviously backing up what he said at SEC media days and is certainly sending a message to the player agents. I don't believe that coaches know everything that goes on between their players and agents/scouts off the field and the NCAA has a history of punishing the programs after the guilty players are gone and out of their reach. The same goes for the coaches if they do know of violations or if they commit violations themselves. These agents stand to make millions off of the top rated prospects and a healthy chunk of change off of 2nd & 3rd round picks. Since the agents and the NFL are in the business of making money, I'm not sure how effective policing themselves will be.
August 11, 201016 yr I agree FC, but I am not ready to cannonize Saban either, and feel that the media is doing that a little. He went from Michigan State to LSU to the Dolphins to Alabama. Every step getting an increase in pay. I think he is a great coach, but like other great coaches that have success, then you see their true selves come out, and I think Saban is all about Saban.
August 11, 201016 yr I agree FC, but I am not ready to cannonize Saban either, and feel that the media is doing that a little. He went from Michigan State to LSU to the Dolphins to Alabama. Every step getting an increase in pay. I think he is a great coach, but like other great coaches that have success, then you see their true selves come out, and I think Saban is all about Saban. I really like to hear Saban talk about football but I do agree with you on this. Larry will probably defend him here in a few, but I do think it seems like Saban is only out for #1.
August 11, 201016 yr Author I agree FC, but I am not ready to cannonize Saban either, and feel that the media is doing that a little. He went from Michigan State to LSU to the Dolphins to Alabama. Every step getting an increase in pay. I think he is a great coach, but like other great coaches that have success, then you see their true selves come out, and I think Saban is all about Saban. You might be right about Saban, but if other schools jump on the bandwagon it could set an interesting precedence. I also saw a comment from a scout about how Saban would like high schools to do the same thing to his staff.
August 11, 201016 yr Well there is no denying Saban is out for himself. He jumps ship with a quickness, not saying anything is wrong with that its just the way it is. He has a big program and people may follow suit.
August 12, 201016 yr We made over $32 Million last year not counting $20 million deal from Nike, you think money is an issue with Coach, well you don't know your math. If you had a chance to better yourself in your career, would you do it? No, you would stay in the position wouldn't you, again think about it. he wanted to try LSU leaving the Big ten, which conference is better? LSU, he won a what? Wanted to try the pros, not a good fit. Told Bama no several times, Mal came and Terri said yes, and he won an another "WHAT". Coach backs up his word. We could pay him $10 mil a year and I'd OK it. He and his wife donate to several charities, search it I wrote about it last year. "Jumps ship"..c'mon you are better than that.
August 12, 201016 yr This ban is temporary.Probably. It will definitely end when recruiting dips because potential recruits figure that they like having NFL scouts, scout them. He banned NFL scouts, not just agents. http://espn.go.com/blog/sec/post/_/id/12545/saban-shuts-down-nfl-access
August 12, 201016 yr We made over $32 Million last year not counting $20 million deal from Nike, you think money is an issue with Coach, well you don't know your math. If you had a chance to better yourself in your career, would you do it? No, you would stay in the position wouldn't you, again think about it. he wanted to try LSU leaving the Big ten, which conference is better? LSU, he won a what? Wanted to try the pros, not a good fit. Told Bama no several times, Mal came and Terri said yes, and he won an another "WHAT". Coach backs up his word. We could pay him $10 mil a year and I'd OK it. He and his wife donate to several charities, search it I wrote about it last year. "Jumps ship"..c'mon you are better than that. Where did i say anything was wrong with it? I am always looking to improve my career. I have worked for 4 different companies since graduating college...I have no issue with it and I stated such. He did leave Miami after assuring them he wouldn't. That is "jumping ship" IMO. It wasn't like I was attacking the man. We all know that Alabama and Saban are the best in the game right now, no dispute.
August 12, 201016 yr We made over $32 Million last year not counting $20 million deal from Nike, you think money is an issue with Coach, well you don't know your math. If you had a chance to better yourself in your career, would you do it? No, you would stay in the position wouldn't you, again think about it. he wanted to try LSU leaving the Big ten, which conference is better? LSU, he won a what? Wanted to try the pros, not a good fit. Told Bama no several times, Mal came and Terri said yes, and he won an another "WHAT". Coach backs up his word. We could pay him $10 mil a year and I'd OK it. He and his wife donate to several charities, search it I wrote about it last year. "Jumps ship"..c'mon you are better than that. I love Saban as a coach but I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. We'll see how loyal he is going forward. If he decides to go back to the pros will you still feel the same way Larry?
August 12, 201016 yr I love Saban as a coach but I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. We'll see how loyal he is going forward. If he decides to go back to the pros will you still feel the same way Larry? One would have to if it is for more money or something for the betterment of his career, right? I'm all for people getting paid - that is why I sided with Revis in the poll - I just wish for people to be honest. I have always left where I was completely welcomed back when I went somewhere that I thought was a better opportunity.
August 12, 201016 yr One would have to if it is for more money or something for the betterment of his career, right? I'm all for people getting paid - that is why I sided with Revis in the poll - I just wish for people to be honest. I have always left where I was completely welcomed back when I went somewhere that I thought was a better opportunity. I don't fault Saban at all. But he's already proven that his word means very little when it comes to job searching.
August 12, 201016 yr Cawood, I understand, I was wanting "History" to come back and its no big deal. I just have been debating this issue with a lot of folks and when the AD of Bama is writing a Book on how Coach decided to change his mind and finally go to Bama. Well, its a sore issue. man has freewill but Coach Saban is a dog for leaving the Pros. Coach Cam Camern was fired after one season from the same team, and I could find many examples of teams firing coaches. Sorry, I quoted you. CCC, he might leave Bama, but not for the Pros. See Darth Visor.
August 13, 201016 yr Cawood, I understand, I was wanting "History" to come back and its no big deal. I just have been debating this issue with a lot of folks and when the AD of Bama is writing a Book on how Coach decided to change his mind and finally go to Bama. Well, its a sore issue. man has freewill but Coach Saban is a dog for leaving the Pros. Coach Cam Camern was fired after one season from the same team, and I could find many examples of teams firing coaches. Sorry, I quoted you. CCC, he might leave Bama, but not for the Pros. See Darth Visor. If he leaves he'll only go for the Pros I think. Maybe he might be interested in Ohio State but really there isn't much of an improvement going from Bama to anywhere else in College Football I don't think.
August 13, 201016 yr We made over $32 Million last year not counting $20 million deal from Nike, you think money is an issue with Coach, well you don't know your math. If you had a chance to better yourself in your career, would you do it? No, you would stay in the position wouldn't you, again think about it. he wanted to try LSU leaving the Big ten, which conference is better? LSU, he won a what? Wanted to try the pros, not a good fit. Told Bama no several times, Mal came and Terri said yes, and he won an another "WHAT". Coach backs up his word. We could pay him $10 mil a year and I'd OK it. He and his wife donate to several charities, search it I wrote about it last year. "Jumps ship"..c'mon you are better than that. I'm back Larry. I wonder if he told any recruits at Michigan State and LSU he'd be there for their four years. He is a great coach, but is all about one thing and it ain't the Crimson Tide.
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