May 13, 201016 yr Kinda like all the folks that voted for B.O. huh? I know... I know... but when you tee 'em up so nicely like that... :idunno: :lol: You got me there. He hasn't been nearly liberal enough to suit me.
May 14, 201016 yr For those of you who disapprove of the new law, I'd be interested to hear what you feel is wrong or unconstitutional about it. I'm sure many of you have touched on that the other thread, but quite frankly, it's too long for me to read.
May 14, 201016 yr For those of you who disapprove of the new law, I'd be interested to hear what you feel is wrong or unconstitutional about it. I'm sure many of you have touched on that the other thread, but quite frankly, it's too long for me to read. 4th amendment arguments.
May 14, 201016 yr 4th amendment arguments. So your concern is that police officers will abuse their authority under the "reasonable suspicion" language and violate someone's reasonable expectation to privacy? If so, it seems to me that your problem is not with the law itself, but with how you feel the law will be carried out. Is that fair to say?
May 14, 201016 yr So your concern is that police officers will abuse their authority under the "reasonable suspicion" language and violate someone's reasonable expectation to privacy? If so, it seems to me that your problem is not with the law itself, but with how you feel the law will be carried out. Is that fair to say? That is what I have taken from most. And as a supporters of the bill, I have some of the the same concerns. All I know is what has been going on in the past is not working. Arizona is trying to force the hand of the federal government to actually take some action. My guess is they will not budge.
May 14, 201016 yr So your concern is that police officers will abuse their authority under the "reasonable suspicion" language and violate someone's reasonable expectation to privacy? If so, it seems to me that your problem is not with the law itself, but with how you feel the law will be carried out. Is that fair to say? Does a cop have to have reasoanble suspecion to search a car? All they have to say is I think I smell pot.
May 14, 201016 yr This thread kind of goes hand in hand with the profiling thread. This is racial profiling. The one and only reason any of these people would be asked to provide identification is because they "look" Mexican. That's no different than a cop stopping every African-American they see because they're black in a white neighborhood.
May 14, 201016 yr This thread kind of goes hand in hand with the profiling thread. This is racial profiling. The one and only reason any of these people would be asked to provide identification is because they "look" Mexican. That's no different than a cop stopping every African-American they see because they're black in a white neighborhood. Key word in your sentence, this is apples and oranges IMO.
May 14, 201016 yr Key word in your sentence, this is apples and oranges IMO. How is this different? Because they're looking for people who aren't here legally? It's no different, they are being asked for identification based on nothing more than their heritage. I leave my ID at home from time to time when I go out if I know I'm not going to be driving or needing it for anything. What would happen to legal law abiding Mexican-American citizens if they did the same?
May 14, 201016 yr How does one look American? When you're in Mexico, probably anyone who looks like they are not of Mexican decent. Just a guess. :idunno:
May 14, 201016 yr When you're in Mexico, probably anyone who looks like they are not of Mexican decent. Just a guess. :idunno: Bin Laden would be considered American in Mexico? :idunno:
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