So, it's ok for thin people to fly, even if they're unhealthy, but not for overweight people, even if they're healthy.

 

Yeah....I see the logic there. We'll inspire people to get more fit if they can't fly, but only the ones who's body type don't fit our idea of healthy. :ohbrother:

 

Are you intentionally being "thick" or are we arguing two different issues. Thin people sitting next to me do not lead to complaints. Overly fat people do. Who cares if they're unhealthy or not! Immaterial to the debate.

RM - as one of the more compassionate people on here you have shown consistency in that area. However, sometimes compassion is not the answer. This is one of those times. If shame leads that person to lose weight then they are better off for it. Letting them impose their girth into my space does nothing good for either them or me.

Its irrelevant because the WHY behind the fat isn't a factor. You're either too fat or you're not. For those that can't help it, they lose.

 

Am I missing something? This guy bought two seats b/c he knows he's fat. He knows the rules and even agrees w/ them. We're not talking about someone who blindly went into this. I don't doubt that he felt he passed the test. I do doubt that someone didn't complain.

Overweight people are not healthy. There is nothing healthy about being fat.

 

UKMF, you need to look further into that subject. Because there ARE people who appear overweight, but they are healthier than many thin people. There are certain physical conditions that can lead to the appearance of "overweight" by current standards, but the person's heart, BP, cholesterol, and other indicators are in great condition.

 

You cannot always judge a person's healthiness by their weight.

Are you ignoring the part where he knows the rule and bought two seats b/c of his size?

 

 

I am not. I pointed that out early in the thread.

Are you intentionally being "thick" or are we arguing two different issues. Thin people sitting next to me do not lead to complaints. Overly fat people do. Who cares if they're unhealthy or not! Immaterial to the debate.

 

 

I am not being intentionally "thick". :lol: And I can't believe you've never had a person who was thin that sat next to you that didn't drive you crazy, or a thin person in front of you that didn't drive you to complaint.

RM - as one of the more compassionate people on here you have shown consistency in that area. However, sometimes compassion is not the answer. This is one of those times. If shame leads that person to lose weight then they are better off for it. Letting them impose their girth into my space does nothing good for either them or me.

 

I give up. You have obviously concluded that all people over a certain poundage are unhealthy and have formed a bias that is so deep-seeded as to incite disgust that they may even touch you. I still find no objectivity in your arguments.

I am not. I pointed that out early in the thread.

 

Well then some of your points are a little off. He knew the rules and agreed w/ them to the point that he bought two tickets. He asked and was let on an earlier flight. He was then told he was too big for one seat. If I had to guess a person next to him complained or it would have never been brought up. His story is they didn't mind when he asked them. IMO they cared but didn't want to escalate the situation and said they didn't mind. How did it get brought up if someone didn't complain? I'd guess they don't do a fat check for every flight. It wouldn't look good and we would have heard about it prior to this.

UKMF, you need to look further into that subject. Because there ARE people who appear overweight, but they are healthier than many thin people. There are certain physical conditions that can lead to the appearance of "overweight" by current standards, but the person's heart, BP, cholesterol, and other indicators are in great condition.

 

You cannot always judge a person's healthiness by their weight.

 

What percentage of obese people do you think are b/c of a health issue other than just being lazy and fat?

I am not being intentionally "thick". :lol: And I can't believe you've never had a person who was thin that sat next to you that didn't drive you crazy, or a thin person in front of you that didn't drive you to complaint.

 

Oh, I've had people sit next to me who I wished would shut up. However, there's a line that has to be drawn at some point and hanging over your seat is the line that the airlines (and supporting public) have drawn.

I give up. You have obviously concluded that all people over a certain poundage are unhealthy and have formed a bias that is so deep-seeded as to incite disgust that they may even touch you. I still find no objectivity in your arguments.

 

I'm simply stunned at your inability to grasp my point.

 

You keep harping on healthy vs unhealthy. I could care less what their blood pressure, cholesterol level, white blood cell count, IQ, or standing heart beat is. Their health is simply irrelevant to this discussion as I've made clear to everyone except you.

 

Again, its a really simple issue. If your body is so big regardless of why and it hangs over the arm rest onto my side, I've got a problem and so does most of the flying public. If you're dying because you smoked your whole life and you're thin as a rail and you're sitting next to me? No problem. You're not in my space.

 

I have no bias at all. I have no more bias against the fat person hanging over into my space than I do against the buy whose arm cast is hanging over into my space.

 

Get off of the "health" issue and focus on the "space" issue.

 

I guarantee you that you're the only one (well, All Tell maybe) who doesn't get the point.

I'm simply stunned at your inability to grasp my point.

 

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Get off of the "health" issue and focus on the "space" issue.

 

I guarantee you that you're the only one (well, All Tell maybe) who doesn't get the point.

 

I'm stunned that you are unable to grasp mine as well.

 

For clarification purposes, YOU have interjected the health issue several times by stating that if an overweight person is shamed into losing weight, so be it, it would be good for them (sic). YOU have made it a subjective issue, rather than an objective issue. Somehow, you seem to feel that an objective business decision can be based upon subjective criteria, and I disagree.

 

And I challenge your "guarantee that All Tell is the only other person who may not get your point.

I'm stunned that you are unable to grasp mine as well.

 

For clarification purposes, YOU have interjected the health issue several times by stating that if an overweight person is shamed into losing weight, so be it, it would be good for them (sic). YOU have made it a subjective issue, rather than an objective issue. Somehow, you seem to feel that an objective business decision can be based upon subjective criteria, and I disagree.

 

And I challenge your "guarantee that All Tell is the only other person who may not get your point.

RM, I get his point. He doesn't like to touch anybody, but himself. :sssh:

Its irrelevant because the WHY behind the fat isn't a factor. You're either too fat or you're not. For those that can't help it, they lose.

That's a ridiculous way to do business and one I hope bites then in the rear. I've been on an airplane with some really hefty people sitting next to me, 4 or 5 hour flights at that, somehow I survived. Sorry, but this is just another example of how the whiners in this country are getting too much attention paid to them. People need to learn to man up.

RM, I get his point. He doesn't like to touch anybody, but himself. :sssh:

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