You are mistaken. The stadium was funded by donations, the largest was $1M from the Marshall Foundation. The "loan" you speak of was for properties that are now parking. That was done before the stadium project's public phase of solicitation began.

I wasn't being too serious anyway. I'm just weary of this whole thing.

I agree with what you are saying. But Belfry also is not in a district with 30 other schools that have greater need before them. Equality in the district is a part of the issue. Manual and Male could raise more money but then that money would be taken by the county to be more equally distributed. Schools have to follow certain rules about gifts and fundraising. I am not saying that it can't be done, I am saying that it will not be done because JCPS has too many other things that it is putting on a higher priority and it is easier to write prop 20 then to raise the funds to compete.

 

 

Belfry raised funds for the stadium. I don't know ALL the details, but the fact is, the supporters of that school took it upon themselves to make sure it got done. Why can't individual schools do what it takes to have things done at thier school.

 

Also, what about the donations for the field hockey field. Were they split? Did the family give twice as much so the boys sports could be funded with an equal amount? I'm not understanding what you're saying, and the answer to this question would clear things up a little.

 

Point blank. Are your boosters and alumni unable to raise funds for and donate to special projects at Manual?

Belfry raised funds for the stadium. I don't know ALL the details, but the fact is, the supporters of that school took it upon themselves to make sure it got done. Why can't individual schools do what it takes to have things done at thier school.

 

Also, what about the donations for the field hockey field. Were they split? Did the family give twice as much so the boys sports could be funded with an equal amount? I'm not understanding what you're saying, and the answer to this question would clear things up a little.

 

Point blank. Are your boosters and alumni unable to raise funds for and donate to special projects at Manual?

Again you are comparing a school in EKY with a school in downtown Louisville. There are huge political differences and civic priorities are not centered as strongly around a city school like Manual as say a town school like Belfry or a county school like Meade County where it is point of civic pride. And Manual's boosters do donate and do work to make some special projects happen. You are talking to someone that has donated both time and some money. But I am telling you in all honesty that we can't even get lights put up in out stadium without waiting till half the county gets their's first. Public jobs of that type require public contracts, I can't just get a bunch of light bulbs and an extension cord and a ladder, or give money and make it happen. It has to be appropriated, and contracted out, that means going through the system. It would not happen.

I'd say that without the very generous donations to our field hockey program, our spirit wall project wouldn't be in existance.

I'd say that without the very generous donations to our field hockey program, our spirit wall project wouldn't be in existance.

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If I'M not mistaken, Trinity 'borrowed' money from the Archdiocese for their new playpen...

 

Must be nice...

But you are mistaken.

But you are mistaken.

It's been covered, thank you. :thumb:

Interesting....I don't think either Assumption or Sacred Heart have a Field Hockey field. Nor does Seneca, come to think of it.

Not that it really matters or not.

 

But, actually Seneca does have a field now. The field is located beside Goldsmith Elementary. The field was graded and seeded about four years ago. I believe the work was done by one of the players father.

 

They dedicated the field this year in the name of John Locke who retired as principal last year and had been at Seneca for around 30 years as a teacher and in the adminisrtation.

Not that it really matters or not.

 

But, actually Seneca does have a field now. The field is located beside Goldsmith Elementary. The field was graded and seeded about four years ago. I believe the work was done by one of the players father.

 

They dedicated the field this year in the name of John Locke who retired as principal last year and had been at Seneca for around 30 years as a teacher and in the adminisrtation.

 

 

Sorry...I misspoke. Thanks for clearing it up! :thumb:

Again you are comparing a school in EKY with a school in downtown Louisville. There are huge political differences and civic priorities are not centered as strongly around a city school like Manual as say a town school like Belfry or a county school like Meade County where it is point of civic pride. And Manual's boosters do donate and do work to make some special projects happen. You are talking to someone that has donated both time and some money. But I am telling you in all honesty that we can't even get lights put up in out stadium without waiting till half the county gets their's first. Public jobs of that type require public contracts, I can't just get a bunch of light bulbs and an extension cord and a ladder, or give money and make it happen. It has to be appropriated, and contracted out, that means going through the system. It would not happen.

 

 

The Pike BOE built Belfry's new school and stadium, donations paid for the Field Turf,($650,000) something extra and we were the oldest high school in the district. The reason the community done this, simple we want an adavantage over other schools in the entire area.

 

And for the record there are 4 other county high schools(Pike Central, East Ridge, Phelps, and Shelby Valley) as well as Pikeville Independent (K-5, and 7-12) along with 20 other schools(K-8)

The Pike BOE built Belfry's new school and stadium, donations paid for the Field Turf,($650,000) something extra and we were the oldest high school in the district. The reason the community done this, simple we want an adavantage over other schools in the entire area.

 

And for the record there are 4 other county high schools(Pike Central, East Ridge, Phelps, and Shelby Valley) as well as Pikeville Independent (K-5, and 7-12) along with 20 other schools(K-8)

And that is great, but it is not the same thing as being in the city with 30 other HIGH schools public and private to compete with for time and money and business. It is a great accomplishment but you have to understand that in Louisville the community is divided into so many high school loyalties it is abit more difficult to motivate the base. It is one of the great things about small town football, it really gets the loyalty and backing that the city schools tend to lack, not because they aren't proud of their school, but it doesn't tend to represent the comunity in the way that say Belfry does the local community or St.X and Trinity do with the Louisville Catholic Community. It is not an excuse we should be able to do alot, and we do, but it is not the same thing.

And that is great, but it is not the same thing as being in the city with 30 other HIGH schools public and private to compete with for time and money and business. It is a great accomplishment but you have to understand that in Louisville the community is divided into so many high school loyalties it is abit more difficult to motivate the base. It is one of the great things about small town football, it really gets the loyalty and backing that the city schools tend to lack, not because they aren't proud of their school, but it doesn't tend to represent the comunity in the way that say Belfry does the local community or St.X and Trinity do with the Louisville Catholic Community. It is not an excuse we should be able to do alot, and we do, but it is not the same thing.

 

 

Your post says a lot. There's a lot you COULD do, and SHOULD do, but since it's not happening, the solution is to kick out those that do. You say it's not an excuse, but really...come on. You admitted it's possible, but no one's going to make any effort to do it, so you give up.

And that is great, but it is not the same thing as being in the city with 30 other HIGH schools public and private to compete with for time and money and business. It is a great accomplishment but you have to understand that in Louisville the community is divided into so many high school loyalties it is abit more difficult to motivate the base. It is one of the great things about small town football, it really gets the loyalty and backing that the city schools tend to lack, not because they aren't proud of their school, but it doesn't tend to represent the comunity in the way that say Belfry does the local community or St.X and Trinity do with the Louisville Catholic Community. It is not an excuse we should be able to do alot, and we do, but it is not the same thing.

I think that the biggest problem for the JCPS, and maybe for most city schools is the lack of support for the schools over the long haul. I worked with a fellow that was very active in his schools booster organisation for several years, until his kids graduated, then he was finished. His work was for his kids and not the school. Compare that to schools like Trinity or x where the alumni are still out in force many long years later. I get the feeling that that loyalty is still there in the more rural counties.

Your post says a lot. There's a lot you COULD do, and SHOULD do, but since it's not happening, the solution is to kick out those that do. You say it's not an excuse, but really...come on. You admitted it's possible, but no one's going to make any effort to do it, so you give up.

Did I miss something or did ram95 ever say he agreed with kicking out the private schools? I don't believe he did. Also I know for a fact that he personally does far more for his particular school than most anyone and doesn't need to be lectured on he could and should do.

 

The truth of the matter is that in big cities all around the U.S. public schools don't have community bind that public schools in rural areas have. This isn't anything new, this trend has been occurring for years.

 

Private schools have a one up on this matter because they generally have a secondary community bind, be it religion, economic class, or whatever. There are less community binds for the public scools especially in the midst of open enrollment where many students don't go to school in thier own neighborhood.

Also I know for a fact that he personally does far more for his particular school than most anyone and doesn't need to be lectured on he could and should do.

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