October 21, 200916 yr Anyone that relies on WND or Fox News who used WND as their reference does so at risk of their own reputation. This cited speech was talking about campaign strategy. Period. She was talking about how the campaign wanted to use video to get the message out to Obama supporters. Talking about how go directly to the voter instead of having their message massaged by the news outlets. Instead of the Rs trying to find fault with this statement they should take the concept to heart in their next campaign. You MUST change your game as to how you disseminate your message. TV/Newspapers are NOT the best source for info anymore. Look at this video ONLY if you're interested in the full context. If your goal is to find another false reason to be against the POTUS, skip it. You'll end up conflicted if you don't. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kO2csh35WA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLR5jHlytRg&feature=related
October 21, 200916 yr All the news organizations have an agenda. And it isn't just Murdoch who is interested in making money. None of them are 'charitable' organizations, ... they are businesses and run their operations as such. They do ALL let their personal beliefs interfere with the ability to actually report the news anymore. If you are depending on the mainstream media to give you the real 'news', ... then you are fooling yourself. For this administration to target FOX as they have is only helping FOX. For that matter, all POTUS and their administrations have tried to control what is reported. Like Jim said, they all are using the same playbook, ... but this administration is letting their emotions spill over which is a HUGE mistake that can come back to bit them. I will say that at least this administration is honest about the fact that they don't like having a 'news' organization disagreeing with them. NONE of them have liked it. However, while I admire the honesty about it, I also find it laughable that they ask the other 'news' organizations to not treat FOX like a member of the actual media, but more like the 'Weekly World News'. At least McCain had a sense of humor about Olberman and even made jokes about the situation, when Olberman was using nearly every waking moment to blast McCain with his 'opinion'. Folks, the bottom line is that real 'news' in the national media is dead and has been dying for several years. And they are ALL in the business of making money, PERIOD. If they weren't, they would be non profit charitable organizations and to my knowledge, none of them are filing their taxes as such. The right watches Fox AND the others to see what they believe the truth is and to also hear what horrible things MSNBC and others are saying. The left watches MSNBC and also watches Fox to see what horrible things they are saying. Either way, the networks are using this to make money and if you think any differently, ... I have some ocean front property in Jackson County that I will let go really cheap!
October 21, 200916 yr All the news organizations have an agenda. And it isn't just Murdoch who is interested in making money. None of them are 'charitable' organizations, ... they are businesses and run their operations as such. They do ALL let their personal beliefs interfere with the ability to actually report the news anymore. If you are depending on the mainstream media to give you the real 'news', ... then you are fooling yourself. For this administration to target FOX as they have is only helping FOX. For that matter, all POTUS and their administrations have tried to control what is reported. Like Jim said, they all are using the same playbook, ... but this administration is letting their emotions spill over which is a HUGE mistake that can come back to bit them. I will say that at least this administration is honest about the fact that they don't like having a 'news' organization disagreeing with them. NONE of them have liked it. However, while I admire the honesty about it, I also find it laughable that they ask the other 'news' organizations to not treat FOX like a member of the actual media, but more like the 'Weekly World News'. At least McCain had a sense of humor about Olberman and even made jokes about the situation, when Olberman was using nearly every waking moment to blast McCain with his 'opinion'. Folks, the bottom line is that real 'news' in the national media is dead and has been dying for several years. And they are ALL in the business of making money, PERIOD. If they weren't, they would be non profit charitable organizations and to my knowledge, none of them are filing their taxes as such. The right watches Fox AND the others to see what they believe the truth is and to also hear what horrible things MSNBC and others are saying. The left watches MSNBC and also watches Fox to see what horrible things they are saying. Either way, the networks are using this to make money and if you think any differently, ... I have some ocean front property in Jackson County that I will let go really cheap! NPR does.
October 21, 200916 yr Please help me understand. Is the schism between the POTUS and FOX greater than what exists between the U.S. and Iran/North Korea/Venezuela ? So is it the WH's perception that he can sit across the table from these despots and negotiate (charm them into) nuclear disarmament, yet not be able to coexist with a domestic news channel. Regardless of what side of the aisle you're on, this certainly seems to convey weakness, intimidation, and insecurity. Not necessarily an image of strength and conviction.
October 21, 200916 yr Anyone that relies on WND or Fox News who used WND as their reference does so at risk of their own reputation. This cited speech was talking about campaign strategy. Period. She was talking about how the campaign wanted to use video to get the message out to Obama supporters. Talking about how go directly to the voter instead of having their message massaged by the news outlets. Instead of the Rs trying to find fault with this statement they should take the concept to heart in their next campaign. You MUST change your game as to how you disseminate your message. TV/Newspapers are NOT the best source for info anymore. Look at this video ONLY if you're interested in the full context. If your goal is to find another false reason to be against the POTUS, skip it. You'll end up conflicted if you don't. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5kO2csh35WA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLR5jHlytRg&feature=related What is WND?
October 21, 200916 yr Please help me understand. Is the schism between the POTUS and FOX greater than what exists between the U.S. and Iran/North Korea/Venezuela ? So is it the WH's perception that he can sit across the table from these despots and negotiate (charm them into) nuclear disarmament, yet not be able to coexist with a domestic news channel. Regardless of what side of the aisle you're on, this certainly seems to convey weakness, intimidation, and insecurity. Not necessarily an image of strength and conviction. Nice point. We can talk to dictators who call us Satan but not to a news organization in our own country.:thumb:
October 21, 200916 yr What is WND? The source of this incorrect story that everyone has jumped on. You do see the error, correct?
October 21, 200916 yr Weapon of News Destruction? Very nice. The source of this incorrect story that everyone has jumped on. You do see the error, correct? Read the story and now know who WND is. What was the error? She claimed they controlled the news stories that were getting out by only giving live interviews and limiting what could be put in a news story.
October 21, 200916 yr Very nice. Read the story and now know who WND is. What was the error? She claimed they controlled the news stories that were getting out by only giving live interviews and limiting what could be put in a news story. What was the error? If you only read the attached links you would think the lady is talking about daily strategy with the media while in the White House. That's what WND and Fox want you to take away from this despite there being no evidence to support it. However, when you look at the actual interview the lady gave you can clearly see that its not the WH strategy but, rather, it was the campaign strategy to get their message directly to the people. In other words, don't let any of the news channels control the message of the campaign. Seems smart to me and , as I stated, one the next R candidate should use. So, again, if you see WND start googling to get the real story. Otherwise, you're made to look foolish.
October 21, 200916 yr What was the error? If you only read the attached links you would think the lady is talking about daily strategy with the media while in the White House. That's what WND and Fox want you to take away from this despite there being no evidence to support it. However, when you look at the actual interview the lady gave you can clearly see that its not the WH strategy but, rather, it was the campaign strategy to get their message directly to the people. In other words, don't let any of the news channels control the message of the campaign. Seems smart to me and , as I stated, one the next R candidate should use. So, again, if you see WND start googling to get the real story. Otherwise, you're made to look foolish. Clyde I think you are the one not reading the links. From the WND link and the first 4 WORDS OF THE RELEASE.............. President Obama's presidential campaign How is WND misleading people about it being a daily strategy with the media when THE FIRST FOUR WORDS OF THE ARTICLE CLEARLY STATE his presidential campaign? I guess for those that went into the article looking for a way to say it is misleading people would conveniently skip over THE FIRST FOUR WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
October 21, 200916 yr What was the error? If you only read the attached links you would think the lady is talking about daily strategy with the media while in the White House. That's what WND and Fox want you to take away from this despite there being no evidence to support it. However, when you look at the actual interview the lady gave you can clearly see that its not the WH strategy but, rather, it was the campaign strategy to get their message directly to the people. In other words, don't let any of the news channels control the message of the campaign. Seems smart to me and , as I stated, one the next R candidate should use. So, again, if you see WND start googling to get the real story. Otherwise, you're made to look foolish. Where is Fox misleading? They reported on their treatment from the WHITE HOUSE after Fox had the audacity to make sure what the WH person was saying was the truth. The White House stopped providing guests to "Fox News Sunday" after host Chris Wallace fact-checked controversial assertions made by Tammy Duckworth, assistant secretary of the Department of Veterans Affairs, in August. Dunn said fact-checking an administration official was "something I've never seen a Sunday show do." "She criticized 'Fox News Sunday' last week for fact-checking -- fact-checking -- an administration official," Wallace said Sunday. "They didn't say that our fact-checking was wrong. They just said that we had dared to fact-check." And for that matter, Obama supporter sides with FOX. Democratic strategist Donna Brazile said on CNN: "I don't always agree with the White House. And on this one here I would disagree." David Gergen, who has worked for Democratic and Republican presidents, said: "I totally agree with Donna Brazile." Gergen added that White House officials have "gotten themselves into a fight they don't necessarily want to be in. I don't think it's in their best interest." "The faster they can get this behind them, the more they can treat Fox like one other organization, the easier they can get back to governing, and then put some people out on Fox," Gergen said on CNN. "I mean, for goodness sakes, you know, you engage in the debate. I guess Brazile and Gergen and in essence CNN are purposely misleading too????
October 21, 200916 yr Clyde I think you are the one not reading the links. From the WND link and the first 4 WORDS OF THE RELEASE.............. President Obama's presidential campaign How is WND misleading people about it being a daily strategy with the media when THE FIRST FOUR WORDS OF THE ARTICLE CLEARLY STATE his presidential campaign? I guess for those that went into the article looking for a way to say it is misleading people would conveniently skip over THE FIRST FOUR WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Egg on my face . Now sure how I missed that.
October 21, 200916 yr Egg on my face . Now sure how I missed that. Takes a big man to post this.:thumb::thumb: I have gained a lot of respect for you from this post.
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