October 3, 200916 yr Probably about the time when the non-Christian population of this country decided it didn't want to be marginalized as second-class citizens anymore and didn't want to have the tyranny that is the majority beat its traditions and holidays through everyone's heads, whether welcomed or not. :idunno: You mean the ones, many of which moved here knowing this is primarily a Christian Nation, who have the freedom to worship or not worship as they please, who now seem to want to make remove Chritianity from our nation. I don't care if anyone is offended by it. Too bad. It's not meant to offend it's meant to celibrate. And like Fatman the Christ in Christmas is there for a reason. It's a celebration of Christ.
October 4, 200916 yr Author You mean the ones, many of which moved here knowing this is primarily a Christian Nation, who have the freedom to worship or not worship as they please, who now seem to want to make remove Chritianity from our nation. I don't care if anyone is offended by it. Too bad. It's not meant to offend it's meant to celibrate. And like Fatman the Christ in Christmas is there for a reason. It's a celebration of Christ. :thumb: I'm fed up with all this PC crap being rammed down our throats! Like I said, what makes non believers, or believers of other religions, ideals more relevant than than Christians? :madman:
October 4, 200916 yr :thumb: I'm fed up with all this PC crap being rammed down our throats! Like I said, what makes non believers, or believers of other religions, ideals more relevant than than Christians? :madman: You mean like the fact that "Christians" in this Country don't want gay marriage so it is banned in MOST states. Or that many counties in Kentucky are DRY. Not putting overtly christian ornaments on the National Christmas tree does not keep anyone from expressing their religion. Nothing PC about it. Like I said before it does not affect my worship in any way whatsoever.
October 4, 200916 yr You mean the ones, many of which moved here knowing this is primarily a Christian Nation, who have the freedom to worship or not worship as they please, who now seem to want to make remove Chritianity from our nation. I don't care if anyone is offended by it. Too bad. It's not meant to offend it's meant to celibrate. And like Fatman the Christ in Christmas is there for a reason. It's a celebration of Christ. Please, stop acting like you were first off the freakin' boat. We're all immigrant scum here. :thumb: I'm fed up with all this PC crap being rammed down our throats! Like I said, what makes non believers, or believers of other religions, ideals more relevant than than Christians? :madman: I hate PC garbage as much as anyone. But by the same token, stop using terms such as "non-believers." If anything, a term like that begs to be ripped on.
October 4, 200916 yr So, This country was founded by Christians. Founded on Christian beleifs. By English Speaking, God-Fearing people. Let's abandon those philosophies and let everyone just run wild. Its about more than a tree. It is about abandoning this countries foundation, what made it great, and why it no longer is great. Sad.
October 4, 200916 yr Ah yes the birth of Mithra that was co-opted by the early church to tell those celebrating both that and Saturnalia that they were actually celebrating the birth of Christ. :clap: You are right. Christmas, the birth of Christ, was established by Constantine, the first Christian Emperor of Rome, near the celebration of Saturnalia. This was just one of the contributions Constantine made to Christianity. While the pagans were celebrating the creation of the "sun", Christians could celebrate the birth of the "son". Now the pagans are trying to reverse that again.
October 4, 200916 yr Author You mean like the fact that "Christians" in this Country don't want gay marriage so it is banned in MOST states. Or that many counties in Kentucky are DRY. Not putting overtly christian ornaments on the National Christmas tree does not keep anyone from expressing their religion. Nothing PC about it. Like I said before it does not affect my worship in any way whatsoever. Since marriage is an institution between a man and a woman, your argument doesn't hold water. Besides, what in the world does gay marriage or Kentucky having many dry counties have to do with this? :confused: Sure it does, it's keeping those that wanted to put a Christian ornament on that tree from expressing theirs. Would I have a problem with someone putting a Menorah on the tree? NO! Would I have a problem with someone putting a Wheel of Dharma or Lotus Flower on the tree? NO! Would I have a problem with someone putting a Star and crescent on the tree? NO! Would I have a problem with someone putting a Nine Pointed Star on the tree? NO! Why do you and the Dems that voted for this nonsense have a problem with someone putting a Christian ornament on the NATIONAL CHRISTMAS tree? :idunno:
October 4, 200916 yr Author Please, stop acting like you were first off the freakin' boat. We're all immigrant scum here. I hate PC garbage as much as anyone. But by the same token, stop using terms such as "non-believers." If anything, a term like that begs to be ripped on. I said non-believers and believers of other religions. If one doesn't believe, it makes them a non-believer, does it not?
October 4, 200916 yr So, This country was founded by Christians. Founded on Christian beleifs. By English Speaking, God-Fearing people. Let's abandon those philosophies and let everyone just run wild. Its about more than a tree. It is about abandoning this countries foundation, what made it great, and why it no longer is great. Sad. Some might consider the "founding" of our country as "stealing" it from those that were already here. Let's not pretend that our forefathers were blamelessly "Christian."
October 4, 200916 yr So, This country was founded by Christians. Founded on Christian beleifs. By English Speaking, God-Fearing people. Let's abandon those philosophies and let everyone just run wild. Its about more than a tree. It is about abandoning this countries foundation, what made it great, and why it no longer is great. Sad. What makes this country great is that we all have the freedom to be different. Not some ridiculous implication that we should all be Baptists, contrary to how some folks see it.
October 4, 200916 yr Author Give unto Caeser what is Caesars. He can have the tree.This ain't Rome, yet anyways...
October 4, 200916 yr Author So....Are all the Dems, Progressives and Liberals going to stand hand in hand in a big circle around the tree singing, "Obama tree, Obama tree"...? Sorry, I couldn't resist.
October 4, 200916 yr So....Are all the Dems, Progressives and Liberals going to stand hand in hand in a big circle around the tree singing, "Obama tree, Obama tree"...? Sorry, I couldn't resist. You, my friend, are a bad, bad boy!
October 4, 200916 yr Author You, my friend, are a bad, bad boy! :lol: I'm sorry, TB&G. I couldn't pass that up.
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