2 Humped,

 

I really doubt you've looked for anything substantive regarding health care reform proposals from the Republicans, but here is one of the health care reform bills- Improving Health Care for All Americans Act . According to John Shadegg (R- AZ): “Until now, health care reform proposals have centered on giving more control to government at the expense of patients and their physicians. Government doesn’t belong in the doctor’s office and should not decide what kind of health care you can get. If you’re happy with what you have, my bill ensures you can keep it – and if you aren’t there are options available to you.

 

(DISCLAIMER: I have not read the bill nor claimed to, I am just posting this for everyone else's information)

Not sure why you couldn't understand it, you said the Dems have screwed it up from the start and I simply asked why the Repubs haven't fixed it or offering solutions other than socialist, Nazi, and death panel claims.

The start meaning their current attempt at fixing the problem, since Obama has taken office. So again the first part of your previous post makes no sense.

My health insurance premium increases about 15% per year. Thus, if it only doubles by 2020 I'll be a happy camper.

 

My thoughts exactly, Every year we negotiate our health insurance at work. Premiums go up 15 to 20 percent and you lose a little in coverage. You deductible goes up or copay goes up. Prescription pay out changes.

 

This has been happenning for a while now.

What no one answers is 'why'. Why is the cost going up so much? Or why is 'projected' to go up so much? Perscriptions, doctor fees, insurance co. profits, better technology, more government mandated coverage, higher emergency room costs?

 

Unless or until someone rolls up the sleeves and figures this out there will likely be endless debate. But everyone likes to play the shell game - the insurance companies, the doctors, the hospitals, companies, government. No one is really responsibility and everyone is defending their piece of the pie. With all the different 'negotiated rates' and cost and payment schedules the insurers have with the providers and all the different pools, groups, etc. it sort of like to trying to figure out what a cow looks like by looking at ground beef.

What no one answers is 'why'. Why is the cost going up so much? Or why is 'projected' to go up so much? Perscriptions, doctor fees, insurance co. profits, better technology, more government mandated coverage, higher emergency room costs?

 

Unless or until someone rolls up the sleeves and figures this out there will likely be endless debate. But everyone likes to play the shell game - the insurance companies, the doctors, the hospitals, companies, government. No one is really responsibility and everyone is defending their piece of the pie. With all the different 'negotiated rates' and cost and payment schedules the insurers have with the providers and all the different pools, groups, etc. it sort of like to trying to figure out what a cow looks like by looking at ground beef.

 

 

Part of the answer is that the cost of care for something like 45 million folks is being (at least partially) subsidized by those of us that have coverage.

Part of the answer is that the cost of care for something like 45 million folks is being (at least partially) subsidized by those of us that have coverage.

 

Add in an aging population and its going to explode.

My thoughts exactly, Every year we negotiate our health insurance at work. Premiums go up 15 to 20 percent and you lose a little in coverage. You deductible goes up or copay goes up. Prescription pay out changes.

 

This has been happenning for a while now.

 

So, eventually you'll be paying your whole paycheck AND receiving no coverage, right?

So, eventually you'll be paying your whole paycheck AND receiving no coverage, right?

 

That would be the logical conclusion.

 

I do know a couple of bus drivers that basically receive little or no paycheck in return for health insurance.

That would be the logical conclusion.

 

I do know a couple of bus drivers that basically receive little or no paycheck in return for health insurance.

 

Me, too. It's sad that we pay them a wage that keeps them in the poverty bracket.

So, eventually you'll be paying your whole paycheck AND receiving no coverage, right?

 

Thats are company as a whole, so that makes the cost of business (services) go up. We still pay for our employees but they must pay for there family. Our employees cost for family plans has went up approximately 40% the last 4 yrs.

The problem with Kentucky is there are only a hand full of companies that will do health care in the state. This goes back to when Brereton Jones was governor. The state lost alot of insurance companies and also alot of Doctors because they couldn't afford the premiums for their practice.

Too many talking points on this post.

Surely this doesn't shock anyone.