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Obama and the Birthers

Yes or No - Do You Believe the President Was Born in Hawaii? 38 members have voted

  1. 1. Yes or No - Do You Believe the President Was Born in Hawaii?

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It doesn't matter. Those that want to be irrational in their anti-Obamaness won't believe it regardless.

I'll latch onto anything to get rid of this megalomaniac.

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I have no concern whatsoever about the "birth certificate" controversy. I dislike Obama for more substantive reasons.:thumb:

 

I can respect that. :thumb:

 

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

 

From the website above:

 

Only hours after I posted my analysis of the Minor case, Fukino issued the following statement:

 

“I … have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen…”

 

Wow! Fukino has transmogrified the Constitution. She, and she alone is the sole arbiter of who is and who isn’t a natural-born citizen. Incredible. Where did she get her law degree? Or is she simply the great legal oracle of our generation. Have we discovered, as the monks discover the new Dalai Llama, the legendary great legal oracle of our generation?

 

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Well Fukino, since the Supreme Court states you must look outside the Constitution to determine the meaning of “natural-born citizen”, please tell us where you went to make this monumental announcement that Obama is a natural-born citizen. Please do tell. Because as we’ve said all along at this blog, we believe Obama was born in Hawaii.

 

We’ve also said that when push comes to shove Hawaii is going to verify that Obama was born in Hawaii.

 

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What a load of crap this is. Thanks to all the BC fringe for giving such power to the BC. I’ve told you a million times that the BC does not matter at all. If Obama were born on the mall in DC in a manger rocked by Ronald Reagan sipping a Martini while reading a masonic Bible with a million man march full of witnesses, Obama would still not be eligible to be President.

 

The issue is not the BC. It is the father who was a British subject.

The issue is not the BC. It is the father who was a British subject.

 

:lol:

BUT, is Hawaii REALLY a state?? I haven't been able to locate an invoice that substantiates the purchase. We the people should demand that the government produce adequate documentation as proof. I need to call Hannity and Beck to research this matter.
They'll be calling for boycott of Hawaii before too long ...
The issue is not the BC. It is the father who was a British subject.
And his mother is an American citizen ... why do some persist in pursuing this?
I'll latch onto anything to get rid of this megalomaniac.

 

:lol::laugh:

And his mother is an American citizen ... why do some persist in pursuing this?

 

His mothers status provides citizenship. Not automatically NBC.

 

 

From the same blog (an excellent source with considerable legal specifics):

 

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

 

My analysis above doesn’t conclusively establish that Obama is not eligible to be President. His case is distinguished from Wong Kim Ark’s in that Obama’s mother was a US citizen. His father was never a US citizen and as such Obama (admits) he was governed by Great Britain at birth.

 

This presents a unique question of first impression for the Supreme Court. Based upon my review of history and law, I don’t believe Obama is eligible to be President. But it’s certainly not an easy decision either way you look at it. Yet, this is the kind of difficult decision our Supreme Court exists to answer.

 

Another useful URL:

 

http://people.mags.net/tonchen/birthers.htm

 

Barack Obama publicly admits that his father was not a U.S. citizen. According to Minor v. Happersett, there is unresolved doubt as to whether the child of a non-citizen parent is a natural born citizen. This doubt is not based on the imaginings of some tin-foil-hat-wearing conspiracy theorists on the lunatic fringe of society. This doubt comes from what the Supreme Court has actually said, as well as a variety of other historical and legal sources which are presented and discussed here.

 

 

Al Gore used the title "An Inconvenient Truth". The truth here is unknown or actually it is but it is ignored. But this is certainly an inconvenient situation. As the later blog above indicates:

 

21. If President Obama's birth certificate shows conclusively that he was born in Hawaii, would it end the eligibility controversy?

 

 

Definitely not! President Obama has stated publicly that his father was not a U.S. citizen. According to the birthers' understanding of history and law, if his father was not a U.S. citizen, President Obama cannot be a Constitutional natural born citizen, regardless of where he might have been born. If President Obama was born in Hawaii, he could be regarded as a statutory natural born citizen, but he would not necessarily be a Constitutional natural born citizen.

 

Regardless of what his birth certificate says, Obama's presidential eligibility will never be settled or resolved, until the Supreme Court decides whether the U.S.-born children of non-U.S.-citizen parents are Constitutional natural born citizens.

 

The BC issue is a rock for the anti-Obama crowd to break their pick on. Hence why the BC is not fully disclosed by the Obama camp. It is a good delaying tactic that keeps the more damaging issue hidden - the British father.

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