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Does AAU hurt high School Basketball?

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Why should open enrollment not be allowed? People often complain that private schools have no boundaries, why should a school self-impose a boundary, then complain because a private school does not have a boundary?

 

Open enrolment makes a school work to keep students, not just open the door and say, "come in".

 

 

 

As it relates to sports open enrollment creates a lot more problems then solutions. It gives players the right to CHOOSE where they want to play, not based on where they live but who they want to play with and for. This causes AAU, at the younger levels, to be a tool used to attract players to certain coaches, teams and schools.

 

The topic was AAU and school basketball, not academics. I am not totally against the concept of open enrollment, especially as it relates to academics. Schools are held accountable. I don't believe it is the best method of dealing with the problem of struggling schools, but it certainly provides incentive for schools to do better.

IMO open enrollement HURTS the private school section because now kids can choose what "free" public school they want to attend. You will see less athletes going to private schools in Louisville because they can get the same thing at a public school of their choosing.

The problem I see with AAU is: you put the one or two very good players from one school on a team with the one or two very good players from another school, then the conversation begins with the players and parents. And it goes like, "Man if we had all these kids together on one school team, we could win the district, the region, or the State Championship"

 

Then you have, the kids getting to know each other, the parents getting to know each other, and parents, players, and coaches knowing each other. All of these people may like each other better then they like the parents, players, and coaches on their school teams.

 

Then through normal human behavior, players want to change schools.

 

Exactly the way it happens.:thumb:

Know the team you are talking about and agree 100%. I believe some of the drills are even at the college level!:jump:

 

It's all what the girls want and how hard they want to work. :banana:

 

 

 

The AAU program that I am most familiar with, one in Ohio but where some NKY girls play, has the very best coaching I've seen at the HS age level. Better in fact than any I've seen from a HS program. Their practices often involve multiple coaches, some with outstanding credentials and experience. There is plenty of work on fundamentals and basic skills. This team also places significant emphasis on defense and team play, and I'm have to believe the players end up much better for having played in this program. Another plus for the program is the coaches they use. From what I've seen their purpose is not winning at all costs but in the total development of their players as individuals. To me that's important and not something you see all the time, at the AAU level or even at the HS level.

 

That's a response I guess to the negatives you addressed. I definitely agree with your thoughts that some of these AAU teams (the one I'm most familiar with certainly does) play very stiff competition over the length of their summer schedule and that certainly aids players in their development.

The AAU program that I am most familiar with, one in Ohio but where some NKY girls play, has the very best coaching I've seen at the HS age level. Better in fact than any I've seen from a HS program. Their practices often involve multiple coaches, some with outstanding credentials and experience. There is plenty of work on fundamentals and basic skills. This team also places significant emphasis on defense and team play, and I'm have to believe the players end up much better for having played in this program. Another plus for the program is the coaches they use. From what I've seen their purpose is not winning at all costs but in the total development of their players as individuals. To me that's important and not something you see all the time, at the AAU level or even at the HS level.

 

That's a response I guess to the negatives you addressed. I definitely agree with your thoughts that some of these AAU teams (the one I'm most familiar with certainly does) play very stiff competition over the length of their summer schedule and that certainly aids players in their development.

 

I would agree that both OH and IN do a better job with their AAU teams but there are still many teams out there that do not practice but just play games. If your child is going to play AAU, you need to "interview" the team and coach to make sure it is what you are looking for. There are good and bad AAU teams/coaches, you just have to find the correct one. Unfortunately, some people do not understand that and get caught up in the "my daughter plays AAU...." There are also some coaches out there that are more about their ego then they are about the players. Sounds like you have seen a great example of what it can be which is good.

Okay, let me try this again. High school coaches in Louisville use middle school AAU teams to make themselves and their programs more attractive, and with open enrollment kids can go wherever they choose. Coaches are "selling" their system and their program to kids at an early age because the kids get to pick where they want to attend high school.

 

 

 

This is not illegal by any stretch and any coach who does this is within the rules set forth by the KHSAA. My problem isn't with the coaches, it's with the open enrollment policy.

 

You are very correct in your statement!

AAU is a great opportunity for players to get exposure. Most college coaches do not have the time to watch a player during the high school season because they are devoted to their college team. AAU provides the athlete the opportunity to showcase their skills in front of a captive audience (coaches) and increase their chances of getting scholarship opportunities. They are playing against the best (select teams) and it gives the college coaches a more realistic evaluation of players talents. It is my opinion that AAU does not hurt high school basketball because it is a different forum and playing environment. It only helps those who participate by making them better players and giving them more exposure and opportunities.

Why is this a problem?

Edited by C-TOWN #12

Why should open enrollment not be allowed? People often complain that private schools have no boundaries, why should a school self-impose a boundary, then complain because a private school does not have a boundary?

 

Open enrolment makes a school work to keep students, not just open the door and say, "come in".

 

In an urban setting. A rural setting could have open enrollment and it ain't changing a thing.

In an urban setting. A rural setting could have open enrollment and it ain't changing a thing.

If you have one school in the area, then you have one school in the area. But, I am in a more rural setting as well, in a county with several small cities (Mostly populations of 2-4 thousand), the county has three schools. One county, two independent. The whole area of North-Eastern Kentucky has open enrollment. (Greenup County, Boyd County, Carter County, Elliott County, Lawrence County)

In an urban setting. A rural setting could have open enrollment and it ain't changing a thing.

 

A lot of this would be solved if we reduced the number of counties in the state by 50 percent. Then you would have more scenarios such as listed below. There are way too many counties in this state, and the only reason is because good 'ol boys are resistant to giving up their little fiefdoms.

 

If you have one school in the area, then you have one school in the area. But, I am in a more rural setting as well, in a county with several small cities (Mostly populations of 2-4 thousand), the county has three schools. One county, two independent. The whole area of North-Eastern Kentucky has open enrollment. (Greenup County, Boyd County, Carter County, Elliott County, Lawrence County)
If you have one school in the area, then you have one school in the area.

 

Okay, I got the first part of your sentence but you lost me on the second part.:p:D

A lot of this would be solved if we reduced the number of counties in the state by 50 percent. Then you would have more scenarios such as listed below. There are way too many counties in this state, and the only reason is because good 'ol boys are resistant to giving up their little fiefdoms.
No doubt ... mergers were needed decades ago.

 

Actually, there is talk that it could happen in far western Kentucky, with Fulton County and Hickman County. Between the two, their population is just a little over 10,000.

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