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Christian music festival was a scam

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Give me a Louisville radio station and I will gladly give it a whirl. I hope I am wrong because I love to discover new bands. Though, my step sisters listen to a TON of it and I have yet to be wrong.

 

It is 104.7 and 88.9 in Louisville.

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How do you define a "musician?"

 

By your standard, you must only listen to opera, right?

 

No, I generally don't listen to opera. Some Andres Segovia (classical guitar), but mostly rock and roll from nearly every decade. Some country, but very little of the new stuff.

 

My definition of a musician is someone who actually plays a musical instrument or actually creates music. Not someone who simply pulls a riff from a song that someone else played and uses it to talk over.

 

However, I do understand that there are some rappers who have done some pretty creative things with other people's riffs. But IMHO, very few of them are actually musicians. There are some, I know.

 

There are excellent musicians in nearly every genre of music. I am with you on many bluegrass singers. Very underrated as are the top flight musicians who actually play bluegrass music.

 

Back to the Christian music slams, ... for those of you who believe that it is all like South Park projects it to be, .... name one of the many Christian music artists you have actually listened to in order to reach that conclusion? They simply don't plug in Jesus' name in a pop song. Many of these songs have wonderful messages that quite frankly, more of us could stand to listen to. One of my favorite Christian songs is 'Faith like a child' from Jars of Clay. Great song, excellent vocals, solid message.

 

What I have found over the past several years is that many diss Christian music as it isn't 'cool' to listen to, so many never give it a chance. If you get your education or opinion of Christian music from an episode of South Park, ... maybe you are not looking in the right direction.

It is 104.7 and 88.9 in Louisville.
When I get off work today I'll give it a shot for a little bit. Though it will be hard to get into my steady rotation of 91.9 and 103.9. I'm also fairly certain that 88.9 is the station my stepsisters listen to.

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No, I generally don't listen to opera. Some Andres Segovia (classical guitar), but mostly rock and roll from nearly every decade. Some country, but very little of the new stuff.

 

My definition of a musician is someone who actually plays a musical instrument or actually creates music. Not someone who simply pulls a riff from a song that someone else played and uses it to talk over.

 

However, I do understand that there are some rappers who have done some pretty creative things with other people's riffs. But IMHO, very few of them are actually musicians. There are some, I know.

 

There are excellent musicians in nearly every genre of music. I am with you on many bluegrass singers. Very underrated as are the top flight musicians who actually play bluegrass music.

 

Back to the Christian music slams, ... for those of you who believe that it is all like South Park projects it to be, .... name one of the many Christian music artists you have actually listened to in order to reach that conclusion? They simply don't plug in Jesus' name in a pop song. Many of these songs have wonderful messages that quite frankly, more of us could stand to listen to. One of my favorite Christian songs is 'Faith like a child' from Jars of Clay. Great song, excellent vocals, solid message.

 

What I have found over the past several years is that many diss Christian music as it isn't 'cool' to listen to, so many never give it a chance. If you get your education or opinion of Christian music from an episode of South Park, ... maybe you are not looking in the right direction.

Just listened to it. This further affirms my belief that contemporary Christian musicians are just feeding off of a ready made audience. The vocals are horrible, the arrangement is poor, and this isn't remotely music. It is the same crappy music that I heard at numerous church camps during my youth. If people want to listen to this that's fine. They should just realize that they are keeping a genre alive that wouldn't exist if not for ingenuous Christians.

 

I listen to bands like the Blind Boys of Alabama on a frequent basis so it's not that I'm against Christian themed music, I am just against bad music.

 

As far as your disdain towards rappers, Outkast has forgotten more about good music than this band ever knew.

 

P.S. After a 4th consecutive listen it hasn't gotten any better, my dog is giving me weird looks, and I can now sing the whole song. Though I do believe that sometimes the first time you hear something you don't immediately like it (as was the case with Jazz and I). I am still willing to listen to anything someone suggests as sometimes you need the right song.

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D.C. talk.....Jesus Freaks cd Give it a whirl and it may change your mind about christian music. I always enjoyed POD also.

Glad I wasn't the first to say it.

 

Faith+1 FOREVER!!! :lol:

 

Funniest episode ever...I wanna feel your salvation all over my face.

But seriously there are some really good hardcore Christian bands, who streamline back and forth between mainstream and Christian. I am a fan of christian screamo and metalcore, with bands such as Red, The Devil Wears Prada, Disciple, Flyleaf, and my personal favorite Skillet. If anyone is looking to break into the genre, I would suggest Skillet's album Comatose, with emphasis on their songs Better than Drugs, Rebirthing, Comatose, and The Last Night. It truly is an amazing album, that makes for an easy transition from secular music into Christian.

Funniest episode ever...I wanna feel your salvation all over my face.

 

Yes, and it was hilarious. I felt kinda bad afterward, but I got over it.

 

But seriously there are some really good hardcore Christian bands, who streamline back and forth between mainstream and Christian. I am a fan of christian screamo and metalcore, with bands such as Red, The Devil Wears Prada, Disciple, Flyleaf, and my personal favorite Skillet. If anyone is looking to break into the genre, I would suggest Skillet's album Comatose, with emphasis on their songs Better than Drugs, Rebirthing, Comatose, and The Last Night. It truly is an amazing album, that makes for an easy transition from secular music into Christian.

 

I'll check it out. Did you not like A.I.L.D.? Norma Jean can be okay too, sometimes there weird though.

 

Faith + 1:lol:

 

Didn't Cartman just substitute "Jesus" in place of all names in R&B songs?

 

"I'll take good care of you baby, baby, baby, baayybayy!!" "it's up to you to save me, Jeus, baby!" - I can still watch that and fall out of my seat laughing. Matter of fact, I'm gonna have to cue up Youtube right now.

 

No, I generally don't listen to opera. Some Andres Segovia (classical guitar), but mostly rock and roll from nearly every decade. Some country, but very little of the new stuff.

 

My definition of a musician is someone who actually plays a musical instrument or actually creates music. Not someone who simply pulls a riff from a song that someone else played and uses it to talk over.

 

However, I do understand that there are some rappers who have done some pretty creative things with other people's riffs. But IMHO, very few of them are actually musicians. There are some, I know.

 

There are excellent musicians in nearly every genre of music. I am with you on many bluegrass singers. Very underrated as are the top flight musicians who actually play bluegrass music.

 

Back to the Christian music slams, ... for those of you who believe that it is all like South Park projects it to be, .... name one of the many Christian music artists you have actually listened to in order to reach that conclusion? They simply don't plug in Jesus' name in a pop song. Many of these songs have wonderful messages that quite frankly, more of us could stand to listen to. One of my favorite Christian songs is 'Faith like a child' from Jars of Clay. Great song, excellent vocals, solid message.

 

What I have found over the past several years is that many diss Christian music as it isn't 'cool' to listen to, so many never give it a chance. If you get your education or opinion of Christian music from an episode of South Park, ... maybe you are not looking in the right direction.

 

Mountain Thunder, I was joking. There are alot of talented Christian bands. But there are a lot of crappy ones too. Alot probably do just use the "ready made audience". But, then again their are alot of crappy rock bands, pop singers and rappers.

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But seriously there are some really good hardcore Christian bands, who streamline back and forth between mainstream and Christian. I am a fan of christian screamo and metalcore, with bands such as Red, The Devil Wears Prada, Disciple, Flyleaf, and my personal favorite Skillet. If anyone is looking to break into the genre, I would suggest Skillet's album Comatose, with emphasis on their songs Better than Drugs, Rebirthing, Comatose, and The Last Night. It truly is an amazing album, that makes for an easy transition from secular music into Christian.

 

Skillet is one of the better bands I have seen live. A similar band to Skillet is Decyfer Down, they put on a great live show and are good guys.

 

Flyleaf is one of the newer bands that has gained success outside of the genre. "All Around Me" can be heard on pretty much any radio station.

 

Christian music songwriting has come a long way compared to where it was. I can agree to some extent, that a lot of the music in the past was written with the same method that Cartman used in that South Park episode.

 

Another band that's had huge success outside of the genre is Switchfoot. "Meant to Live" could have been heard on nearly any rock station a couple years back. Lifehouse is another band that crossed over. They started out in the Christian genre and used to be called "Blyss." Some of the songs on their new album contain old songs they did while under that name.

 

Anberlin also started out as a Christian band. While they do not claim to be in that genre now, they still play Christian music festivals, get play on Christian radio stations, and went on tour with Relient K a few years back.

 

The following is a list of songs in the genre I recommend giving a listen to. If after listening, you still don't like them, well, we're just going to have to agree that we have different musical tastes:

 

"Washed by the Water" and "Streets of Gold" - Needtobreathe

"Everything" and "Storm" - Lifehouse

"Meant to Live" - Switchfoot

"Made to Love" and "Lose My Soul" - tobyMac

"Say It Loud" - Sanctus Real

"Feel Good Drag" - Anberlin

"Give Me Your Eyes" - Brandon Heath

"Foreverandever, etc." - David Crowder Band

"Far Far Away" and "Pre-ex Girlfriend" - Five Iron Frenzy

"Something On My Mind" - Hawk Nelson

"Million Pieces" - Newsboys

"Failure to Excommunicate" - Relient K

"Which to Bury, Us or the Hatchet?" - Relient K

"Almost There" - The Swift

"Love Song" - Third Day

I agree that Contemporary Christian as a general rule is garbage. But I think that Christian Rock is a genre that is blossoming right now. I do like As I lay Dying, but there not my favorite. I enjoyed some early Pillar, and I did like some Family Force Five but they have gotten stranger as their songs have come out.

As for switching back and forth, wasn't Creed suppose to be a christian band? The were quite terrible IMO at both.

Skillet is one of the better bands I have seen live. A similar band to Skillet is Decyfer Down, they put on a great live show and are good guys.

 

Flyleaf is one of the newer bands that has gained success outside of the genre. "All Around Me" can be heard on pretty much any radio station.

 

Christian music songwriting has come a long way compared to where it was. Another band that's had huge success outside of the genre is Switchfoot. "Meant to Live" could have been heard on nearly any rock station a couple years back. Lifehouse is another band that crossed over. They started out as Christian band called "Blyss." Some of the songs on their new album contain old songs they did while under that name.

 

Anberlin also started out as a Christian band. While they do not claim to be in that genre now, they still play Christian music festivals, get play on Christian radio stations, and went on tour with Relient K a few years back.

 

The following is a list of songs in the genre I recommend giving a listen to. If after listening, you still don't like them, well, we're just going to have to agree that we have different musical tastes:

 

"Washed by the Water" and "Streets of Gold" - Needtobreathe

"Storm" - Lifehouse

"Meant to Live" - Switchfoot

"Made to Love" and "Lose My Soul" - tobyMac

"Say It Loud" - Sanctus Real

"Feel Good Drag" - Anberlin

"Give Me Your Eyes" - Brandon Heath

"Foreverandever, etc." - David Crowder Band

"Far Far Away" and "Pre-ex Girlfriend" - Five Iron Frenzy

"Something On My Mind" - Hawk Nelson

"Million Pieces" - Newsboys

"Failure to Excommunicate" - Relient K

"Which to Bury, Us or the Hatchet?" - Relient K

"Almost There" - The Swift

"Love Song" - Third Day

 

 

 

I just haven't been sold on much of the softer stuff. I do like me some Anberlin though. Five Iron Frenzy was ok for a while.

As for switching back and forth, wasn't Creed suppose to be a christian band? The were quite terrible IMO at both.

 

Agreed...Creed was a jack of all trades and mos def a master of NONE

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As for switching back and forth, wasn't Creed suppose to be a christian band? The were quite terrible IMO at both.

 

I don't think they ever considered themselves a Christian band, but they did contain some Christian themes in their lyrics.

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I agree that Contemporary Christian as a general rule is garbage. But I think that Christian Rock is a genre that is blossoming right now. I do like As I lay Dying, but there not my favorite. I enjoyed some early Pillar, and I did like some Family Force Five but they have gotten stranger as their songs have come out.

 

Agreed. FF5 has gotten too weird for my tastes.

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