April 22, 200917 yr Obama is following the same creed that Jimmy Hart taught Hulk Hogan years ago. Keep your friends close....and your enemies closer. It seemed to work out pretty well for The Hulkster. Who knew Vince McMahon was laying the groundwork for international diplomatic relations? :thumb:
April 22, 200917 yr I'm referring specifically to the fact that he sat through an hour long diatribe by Daniel Ortega in which Ortega blasted the US as the cause of all problems in the Western Hemisphere. He then said something to the effect of at least he didn't blame me for things that happened when I was three months old. I have less of a problem with his remarks then I do with him basically sitting through Ortega's diatribe. He should have politely walked out. If you're rally interested in what was said I'm sure you can find it somewhere. I heard it on TV last night.Truth be told, as poorly as the neo-con brand of diplomacy you support has worked, perhaps it's time we take a different approach. What harm was done? Ortega made his statement ... big deal. He's entitled to his opinion, too, no matter how distasteful you or I or anyone else may find it. We'll see if Obama gets things done ... I'm sure that if he doesn't, and maybe even if he does, you'll be ready to hammer him for it.
April 22, 200917 yr Author Truth be told, as poorly as the neo-con brand of diplomacy you support has worked, perhaps it's time we take a different approach. What harm was done? Ortega made his statement ... big deal. He's entitled to his opinion, too, no matter how distasteful you or I or anyone else may find it. We'll see if Obama gets things done ... I'm sure that if he doesn't, and maybe even if he does, you'll be ready to hammer him for it. He'll be treated just as well by me as his predecessor was by those on your side.
April 22, 200917 yr Because most of the people who voted for him did so understanding he would take a new approach to foreign policy. That is what is happening and those who voted for him are enjoying the change. Your way obviously didn't work so how about giving it sometime to work. What would you have had Obama do, walk out, fist fight, shout him down?
April 22, 200917 yr Who knew Vince McMahon was laying the groundwork for international diplomatic relations? :thumb: I suspected that in 01 when he purchased WCW. People had better keep their eyes on Jim Cornette is all I'm saying.
April 22, 200917 yr I suspected that in 01 when he purchased WCW. People had better keep their eyes on Jim Cornette is all I'm saying. I was expecting the WWE ticket to be Lawler/Ross or Ross/Lawler. A best two out of three falls will be used to determine who the President on the ticket is. Cornette would make a good Secretary of State...smack upside the head with a tennis racket to Hugo Chavez if he tries to give him a book.
April 22, 200917 yr He'll be treated just as well by me as his predecessor was by those on your side.I guess that is one aspect in which we're different. I criticize politicians when I feel it's warranted, not just because he's "on the other side" or because "the other side" might have treated badly someone that I supported. "Eye for an eye" politics and the incessant personal attacks are getting very tiresome.
April 22, 200917 yr Because most of the people who voted for him did so understanding he would take a new approach to foreign policy. That is what is happening and those who voted for him are enjoying the change. Your way obviously didn't work so how about giving it sometime to work. What would you have had Obama do, walk out, fist fight, shout him down? This is the one I'd pick. Obama might swing everyone of the Bush supporters too if he'd deliver a good butt whipping to one of these guys bashing the US. It could be a huge boost to his overall popularity. Those already following have immersed themselves in the Kool-Aid, so anything he does is ok.
April 22, 200917 yr This is the one I'd pick. Obama might swing everyone of the Bush supporters too if he'd deliver a good butt whipping to one of these guys bashing the US. It could be a huge boost to his overall popularity. Those already following have immersed themselves in the Kool-Aid, so anything he does is ok. On the otherhand, Obama promised diplomacy and open dialogue. A good butt-whoopin' ain't a tactic of either of those. Maybe Bush supporters might try to at least adopt a "wait and see" attitude. Some of them remind me of recalcitrant kids...you can't tell them anything. Eventually, if what you said is true, they still won't admit you're right, but they'll quit yelling.
April 22, 200917 yr Author Because most of the people who voted for him did so understanding he would take a new approach to foreign policy. That is what is happening and those who voted for him are enjoying the change. Your way obviously didn't work so how about giving it sometime to work. What would you have had Obama do, walk out, fist fight, shout him down? What exactly is my way? Is the new approach to foreign policy to basically apologize for everything that happened before he became president? My avatar picture was initially just a jab to get the goat of Obama supporters but I'm really starting to believe that he has a Messianic complex. Obama, or any president for that matter, should have pointed out the good that this country has done for the entire world over the years rather the playing lap dog and trying to deflect blame from himself.
April 22, 200917 yr Author I guess that is one aspect in which we're different. I criticize politicians when I feel it's warranted, not just because he's "on the other side" or because "the other side" might have treated badly someone that I supported. "Eye for an eye" politics and the incessant personal attacks are getting very tiresome. If Obama does something I agree with I'll acknowlege it. He almost got it when he said he wasn't going to seek prosecution or investigation over the interogation methods but since he's flipped that's out the window. I feel that every bit of criticism that I lob at Obama is warrented or I wouldn't be saying it. But then again since his ideology is so different from mine I doubt that vthere is going to be much he does that I don't critize.
April 22, 200917 yr Author On the otherhand, Obama promised diplomacy and open dialogue. A good butt-whoopin' ain't a tactic of either of those. Maybe Bush supporters might try to at least adopt a "wait and see" attitude. Some of them remind me of recalcitrant kids...you can't tell them anything. Eventually, if what you said is true, they still won't admit you're right, but they'll quit yelling. There's a HUGE difference between a good but-whoopin' and just letting some little despot bad mouth us. I don't advocate anything outher the the President of the United States at least acknowleging that this country has done quite a bit of good even before he was elected.
April 22, 200917 yr What exactly is my way? Is the new approach to foreign policy to basically apologize for everything that happened before he became president? My avatar picture was initially just a jab to get the goat of Obama supporters but I'm really starting to believe that he has a Messianic complex. Obama, or any president for that matter, should have pointed out the good that this country has done for the entire world over the years rather the playing lap dog and trying to deflect blame from himself. From his speech a couple of weeks ago. In recent years, we've allowed our alliance to drift. I know that there have been honest disagreements over policy, but we also know that there's something more that has crept into our relationship. In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. But in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual, but can also be insidious. Instead of recognizing the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what's bad.
April 22, 200917 yr This is the one I'd pick. Obama might swing everyone of the Bush supporters too if he'd deliver a good butt whipping to one of these guys bashing the US. It could be a huge boost to his overall popularity. Those already following have immersed themselves in the Kool-Aid, so anything he does is ok. Are we in 3rd grade, do we still need to use the negative buzz words?:confused:
April 22, 200917 yr Author From his speech a couple of weeks ago. In recent years, we've allowed our alliance to drift. I know that there have been honest disagreements over policy, but we also know that there's something more that has crept into our relationship. In America, there's a failure to appreciate Europe's leading role in the world. But in Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual, but can also be insidious. Instead of recognizing the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans choose to blame America for much of what's bad. And yet he chose to sit there and let Ortega bash us. So I guess you're saying he a hypocrite. We may be able to agree on that.
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