In Re: #1

 

You are correct. Many millions of our "citizens" vote solely on the basis of who will give them the most freebies. They are always in search of the Sugar Plum Fairy and they may have found it in the "rock star" Obama.

 

 

I think you may be right that some voters voted for Obama for exactly the reasons you mention.

 

But, I also think you're overestimating the conservative voters of America. How many people voted AGAINST Obama because they thought he was a Muslim? How many people voted AGAINST him because of his race? How many voted AGAINST him because his name sounded too much like Osama?

 

I think you'll agree, in a moment of objectivity, that the ill-informed are the bulk of our voting base in America, and that it holds true no matter whether the winner is Republican, Democrat, Liberal or Conservative.

I think you'll agree, in a moment of objectivity, that the ill-informed are the bulk of our voting base in America, and that it holds true no matter whether the winner is Republican, Democrat, Liberal or Conservative.

 

 

OH AMEN SISTER!!!!

Wow, this thread has lost its intent.

I think you may be right that some voters voted for Obama for exactly the reasons you mention.

 

But, I also think you're overestimating the conservative voters of America. How many people voted AGAINST Obama because they thought he was a Muslim? How many people voted AGAINST him because of his race? How many voted AGAINST him because his name sounded too much like Osama?

 

I think you'll agree, in a moment of objectivity, that the ill-informed are the bulk of our voting base in America, and that it holds true no matter whether the winner is Republican, Democrat, Liberal or Conservative.

 

I would suggest that most conservatives voted against him because he, from all accounts, was and is a wild-eyed liberal who opposes many of the traditional Judeo-Christian traditions upon which this country was built.

 

As for the Muslim deal, I don't know. So far, he hasn't disclosed himself really to be anything of a religious nature, has he?

 

As for the race issue, he and his people used the card quite well to his advantage. Even Yosmite Sam was afraid to remotely approach anything personal about Obama. Even mention of his middle name was taboo.

 

I believe it is safe to say that the voting public knew (and still knows) less about Obama than about any presidential candidate in history. All that was off limits to the opposition because they feared being called racists. And, of course, the "inquiring" press spent its time pumping him up.

 

But, then, we should all be thrilled. After all, to the masses, he is a "rock star" even more popular than Madonna and Britney Spears. What else could we ask for (or expect) in these morally decaying times?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090415/ap_on_re_us/tax_day_protests

Anyone heard an estimated total of how many people participated nationwide?

Anyone heard an estimated total of how many people participated nationwide?

 

So far there aren't any completely hard numbers, wich makes sense if there were aprox. 700 different locations of "Tea Parties".

 

http://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=pgz_ZgmCSloyVfhRGED-vMA

 

Here is a spreadsheet with totals from different rallies across the country. It is from Free Republic is a conservative leaning group that I belive helped sponsor the Tea Parties in some areas. One of thier main leaders/organizers once said something like the Secert Service shouldn't protect Obama aginat assasination attempts, because Obama is an enemy of the Constitution. They have posted on thier site a total(as of 8:54am) about 370,000

 

http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2009/04/how-many-attended-tea-parties.html

 

fivethirtyeight has also gathered some numbers, and admits that it's list is incomplete. Thier count is lower: 111,899.

 

I wouldn't expect to have a true count until possibly tomorrow, and then take a look at the difffernet sources of estimates.

The question is whether the media will count as it did for the million man march (by tens rather than by ones) or count in an honest manner. My guess is that the count from most of them will be done in a concerted effort to understate the true number.

 

And, we should remember that these demonstrators are workers and taxpayers rather than those who had no better way to spend the day.

As many suspected the general feeling of the "protesters" was on full display in Pensacola. A guy got up on the mic and pointed out that this whole debt issue started in 2001 and people started losing jobs prior to the last election at which point he was summarily booed off the stage. So, as suspected, it wasn't an anti-tax anti-spending rally but, rather, it was an anti-Obama rally.

Interesting that the war protestors had a much smaller number but all the newstations gave them coverage and treated as the feeling sweeping the country.

 

And this is lampooned by almost all the media except what appears to be one.

As many suspected the general feeling of the "protesters" was on full display in Pensacola. A guy got up on the mic and pointed out that this whole debt issue started in 2001 and people started losing jobs prior to the last election at which point he was summarily booed off the stage. So, as suspected, it wasn't an anti-tax anti-spending rally but, rather, it was an anti-Obama rally.

 

So, one guy gets up in all these rallies and that is how it is for all?

 

As the lady who called the CNN reporter out who picked to interview the one person with a sign about Obama/Islam or some crap and not all the others who had signs about spending or any that were there with no signs.

 

There are stations that were there to tilt their reporting one way instead of actually REPORTING. I wish we had a news station that I could rely on to ONLY REPORT and not give a one-sided, tilted view.

Interesting that the war protestors had a much smaller number but all the newstations gave them coverage and treated as the feeling sweeping the country.

 

And this is lampooned by almost all the media except what appears to be one.

 

I have no idea about the number disparity, but I don't at all recall war protests getting this much coverage.

I have no idea about the number disparity, but I don't at all recall war protests getting this much coverage.

 

I disagree. Name one person who you learned of that was at a tea party that you did not know before the tea party.

 

But Cindy Sheehan was a nightly news show herself.

 

And that is NOT overlooking the sacrifice that her family gave this country but rather how certain media shameless used her and her grieving for their own benefits.

I disagree. Name one person who you learned of that was at a tea party that you did not know before the tea party.

 

But Cindy Sheehan was a nightly news show herself.

 

And that is NOT overlooking the sacrifice that her family gave this country but rather how certain media shameless used her and her grieving for their own benefits.

 

True, she was given a terribly large amount of coverage, but I don't remember that being a part of war protest coverage.

True, she was given a terribly large amount of coverage, but I don't remember that being a part of war protest coverage.

 

She was camped outside his Crawford home demanding to meet with W about ending the war. How is that not part of the war protest coverage. She was the posterchild for it.