For the truly obese (and that's who I'm advocating) walking any distance is a problem. Many of the obese have severe breathing problems brought on by the sheer amount of weight. So, we can't simply say "walk farther." In many cases, they can't.

 

Well then they have a different problem which is why they cant walk far.

 

If they have a breathing condition, or extremely weak joints or something like that, then sure they can have one.

 

But if they are just severely overweight with no other physical problems then they in no way should be allowed to occupy those spots.

Well then they have a different problem which is why they cant walk far.

 

If they have a breathing condition, or extremely weak joints or something like that, then sure they can have one.

 

But if they are just severely overweight with no other physical problems then they in no way should be allowed to occupy those spots.

 

I think we agree. As I said, I'm talking truly obese - not just extremely fat.

 

Obesity has severe repercussions , thus, it deserves the same treatment as other ailments/injuries.

You haven't addressed the real issue, BF. The underlying theme is that obese people (and not just fat people) brought this upon themselves, thus, ixne on any special parking passes. I assume you're in agreement with that mentality.

 

I'm curious to hear how you rationalize away the negligence involved in some/many injuries . I'm negligent when I drive drunk and I'm negligent when I stuff my face every day. The point is that I'm negligent.

 

Why do you reward some negligence but not other negligence?

You're terribly missing the point...or choosing to ignore it for argument's sake.

 

People with a real disability have a real reason to park in these reserved places. It matters not how they got that way. But fat people have NO real disability, and thus have NO reason to park in these highly valued locations. It's as simple as that.

 

Fat is not a disability, it's an inability.

Many of the obese have severe breathing problems brought on by the sheer amount of weight. So, we can't simply say "walk farther." In many cases, they can't.

I had severe breathing problems as well as heart and kidney failure. Some of the blame for these conditions can be placed on excess weight. You know what I did about it? I sure as heck didn't ask for government assistance -- I lost the weight.

You're terribly missing the point...or choosing to ignore it for argument's sake.

 

People with a real disability have a real reason to park in these reserved places. It matters not how they got that way. But fat people have NO real disability, and thus have NO reason to park in these highly valued locations. It's as simple as that.

 

Fat is not a disability, it's an inability.

 

I'm not missing anything. You seem to be from your wording lumping fat people in with obese people. I'm not.

 

What is the purpose of reserving spots for handicapped people?

I had severe breathing problems as well as heart and kidney failure. Some of the blame for these conditions can be placed on excess weight. You know what I did about it? I sure as heck didn't ask for government assistance -- I lost the weight.

 

Congratulations.

I actually find a few of ya'lls comment very rude. Woodsrider you failed to respond to anything I said. I think being fat and doing nothing at all to improve your situation isn't cause for a handicap pass, no way. I think being fat period doesn't give you the right to one. If you're just overweight and need to modify your diet and work out, then do it. But to the people who have family members who you have seen STRUGGLE for YEARS doing everything they can [liquid diets, NOTHING ELSE, working out for hours] and no result, all to find out they have a medical condition that is making it impossible for them to lose the weight, the things you're saying are very offensive. That being said, none of my family members would think of trying to get a handicap pass just to park closer. Leave it for the people who truly need it. There ARE obese people who truly need it. When you can't breathe, you can barely walk due to all the weight on your knees, then yes you need it.

Thank you. It offends me when people say "If you're fat, eat less and work out and everything will be fine", because that isn't always the case. My parents both have thryoid issues, and have struggled with their weight [my dad only recently], and it makes me so angry when people talk about how lazy and etc. fat people are that they put themselves in their position. While true, for many, it's def. not for all.

 

That being said, my parents have never considered being bigger a handicap? I know they never would. And they constantly work at losing the weight to become healthier and i'm very proud of them for that.

 

Good post I feel the same way with people in my family with the same situation.

I actually find a few of ya'lls comment very rude. Woodsrider you failed to respond to anything I said. I think being fat and doing nothing at all to improve your situation isn't cause for a handicap pass, no way. I think being fat period doesn't give you the right to one. If you're just overweight and need to modify your diet and work out, then do it. But to the people who have family members who you have seen STRUGGLE for YEARS doing everything they can [liquid diets, NOTHING ELSE, working out for hours] and no result, all to find out they have a medical condition that is making it impossible for them to lose the weight, the things you're saying are very offensive. That being said, none of my family members would think of trying to get a handicap pass just to park closer. Leave it for the people who truly need it. There ARE obese people who truly need it. When you can't breathe, you can barely walk due to all the weight on your knees, then yes you need it.

Being as I am a "chubby girl" I will have to say that I find more than just a few of these remarks offensive. Don't even think for a minute that you have the right to make such comments about people unless you know the whole situation. :irked:

Can obese people get a government check? seems like a lot of fat people out the first of the month loading up those grocery carts

I'm not missing anything. You seem to be from your wording lumping fat people in with obese people. I'm not.

They are one and the same.

I actually find a few of ya'lls comment very rude. Woodsrider you failed to respond to anything I said. I think being fat and doing nothing at all to improve your situation isn't cause for a handicap pass, no way. I think being fat period doesn't give you the right to one. If you're just overweight and need to modify your diet and work out, then do it. But to the people who have family members who you have seen STRUGGLE for YEARS doing everything they can [liquid diets, NOTHING ELSE, working out for hours] and no result, all to find out they have a medical condition that is making it impossible for them to lose the weight, the things you're saying are very offensive. That being said, none of my family members would think of trying to get a handicap pass just to park closer. Leave it for the people who truly need it. There ARE obese people who truly need it. When you can't breathe, you can barely walk due to all the weight on your knees, then yes you need it.

I agree completely, in that very limited situation. I think, as long as a doctor certifies that you honestly do have a medical condition, you are entitled to the spot. :thumb:

Can obese people get a government check? seems like a lot of fat people out the first of the month loading up those grocery carts

 

I don't know. Can stupid people get a government check? Obviously. I work at a bank inside of a grocery story and I see those people loading their carts every single day. But in all honesty, what was the point of your post?

Being as I am a "chubby girl" I will have to say that I find more than just a few of these remarks offensive. Don't even think for a minute that you have the right to make such comments about people unless you know the whole situation. :irked:

 

I completely agree. You can't look at people who are overweight and say "Gosh if they would just stop eating and go run they'd be fine". That isn't true for everyone.

I agree completely, in that very limited situation. I think, as long as a doctor certifies that you honestly do have a medical condition, you are entitled to the spot. :thumb:

 

 

Exactly. A doctor must provide documentation stating that the person is TRULY handicap. My parents walk fine, are active, but they are overweight. No doctor would give them a handicap sticker and theyd never ask for it ya know.