Richard Nixon a good man??? I do agree that he was treated better than he deserved later on, years after Watergate. Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford were two good men who were bad presidents.

Richard Nixon a good man??? I do agree that he was treated better than he deserved later on, years after Watergate. Jimmy Carter and Gerald Ford were two good men who were bad presidents.

 

That would be my take as well. GWB, Carter - good men, bad Presidents. Nixon - bad man; bad President.

I will repeat my contention that GWB has not been a bad President. No other President has been handed more with which to deal.

I will repeat my contention that GWB has not been a bad President. No other President has been handed more with which to deal.

 

And I will repeatedly disagree with you :lol:.

 

He has not been good.

I will repeat my contention that GWB has not been a bad President. No other President has been handed more with which to deal.

 

I wouldn't necessarily say he's been good, but he definitely has been handed more "garbage" than any other President. I don't think anyone will deny that.

I wouldn't necessarily say he's been good, but he definitely has been handed more "garbage" than any other President. I don't think anyone will deny that.

 

I would say yes and no.

 

9/11 was cataclysmic and out of the blue for this country. Bush responded well to that event. The closest comparison would be FDR and Pearl Harbor.

 

Economically speaking the long standing practices and policies brought the economy to a screeching halt but then FDR also inherited a huge financial mess as well.

 

For me, Bush's foray into Iraq is when popularity and diplomatic cohesion (sp?) began to fray. The policies put into place and subsequent events is what created much of the friction (caused by both sides as each made Iraq the litmus test of fidelity) we sense today.

 

In the end, for me, Bush was a President who had incredible highs (post 9/11). However, I felt his diplomatic skills and PR leadership were the reasons for his lower marks. The economy was heading to this ending through little fault of his, he just happened to be at the bridge when the iceberg came by the ship.

In multiple threads in this forum, I have consistently ranked GWB and Bill Clinton as average presidents. The impending economic collapse will tarnish both men's legacies, along with Bush I's, IMO. The strong leadership that Bush showed in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 has gone AWOL in the current economic crisis.

 

Bush has shown no courage and no leadership in dealing with the problem. Instead, he has run the white flag up the pole and abandoned the free market entirely. The Bush-Clinton-Obama years will live in infamy, assuming that our nation ever recovers from the looting being done by our so-called national leaders.

All in all, I think GWB is a good man, and a good president. Dealt some tough hands to play, and he played them to his best. What I admire about any person most is the character to stick with your guns after they have been drawn from the holster. Sometimes, this was not popular, but he never swayed from it no matter how cynical things got.

 

If I had to grade his presidency, probably a mid level C.

Good man, can't really say, not a very good President. Maybe not his fault just not qualified for the job? I wish him Peace in his future.

I must have missed the part of history that has been kinder to Jimmy Carter.

 

Glad to see that I wasn't the only person confused about that one. Though I agree with the rest of the above said.

I wouldn't necessarily say he's been good, but he definitely has been handed more "garbage" than any other President. I don't think anyone will deny that.

 

Agreed

In multiple threads in this forum, I have consistently ranked GWB and Bill Clinton as average presidents. The impending economic collapse will tarnish both men's legacies, along with Bush I's, IMO. The strong leadership that Bush showed in the immediate aftermath of 9/11 has gone AWOL in the current economic crisis.

 

Bush has shown no courage and no leadership in dealing with the problem. Instead, he has run the white flag up the pole and abandoned the free market entirely. The Bush-Clinton-Obama years will live in infamy, assuming that our nation ever recovers from the looting being done by our so-called national leaders.

 

 

Love that crytstal ball Hoot. Obama hasn't even take the oath of office yet and it's already a presidency of infamy. :lol:

Agreed

 

I would disagree with the MOST garbage.

 

I'd say Lincoln was dealt a pretty bad hand in 1861.

 

FDR was also given a pretty bad hand in '33. (You could even say the same for Hoover because he reaped the policies of Coolidge and the Market before him.)

 

GWB was given a bad hand but it would be very debatable as if it were the worst hand ever.

Love that crytstal ball Hoot. Obama hasn't even take the oath of office yet and it's already a presidency of infamy. :lol:

I am just taking the man at his word. Bush is pursuing the economic policies that Obama has blessed and pledged to continue. Any student of history should understand the danger of a central government sinking its hooks into all sectors of the economy.

 

The American people are beginning to lose confidence in our economy and our currency. If Obama implements his policies then we will see deflation followed by inflation and will be lucky if hyperinflation does not follow.

 

BTW, I like how you criticized me for attacking Obama without acknowledging my criticism of the Bushes and Clintons. The last president who seemed to truly believe in a free market economy and a limited bureaucracy was Ronald Reagan. IMO, GWB's response to the recession is far more disappointing than anything Obama will do.

 

I know that Obama is a socialist who sees our economic woes as a golden opportunity but Bush's actions have ensured that the Republican Party will be blamed for what is about to befall us the same way that Hoover was blamed for the Great Depression. You cannot save capitalism by abandoning it.

I am just taking the man at his word. Bush is pursuing the economic policies that Obama has blessed and pledged to continue. Any student of history should understand the danger of a central government sinking its hooks into all sectors of the economy.

 

The American people are beginning to lose confidence in our economy and our currency. If Obama implements his policies then we will see deflation followed by inflation and will be lucky if hyperinflation does not follow.

 

BTW, I like how you criticized me for attacking Obama without acknowledging my criticism of the Bushes and Clintons. The last president who seemed to truly believe in a free market economy and a limited bureaucracy was Ronald Reagan. IMO, GWB's response to the recession is far more disappointing than anything Obama will do.

 

I know that Obama is a socialist who sees our economic woes as a golden opportunity but Bush's actions have ensured that the Republican Party will be blamed for what is about to befall us the same way that Hoover was blamed for the Great Depression. You cannot save capitalism by abandoning it.

 

:lol: Lighten up Hoot, it's Xmas. :thumb:

 

I just thought it interesting to predict the future until we see it, that's all. Nothing personal. Just the irony.

 

I too think a lot of Reagan's policies however the deregulation did not help with the S&L issues so it's sometimes finding a balance.

 

Feliz Navidad Hoot. :thumb: