December 11, 200817 yr Bradford has 5 hogs protecting him every game that will all be playing on Sunday. Do you honestly think a decent qb wouldn't have success with that line in front of him? Let's not forget the weapons around him like Iglesias and TWO 1,000 yard rushers in Murray and Brown. To say he isn't the MVP of is team his complete nonsense...
December 11, 200817 yr For those of you picking Bradford over Mccoy, let me point a few things out: 1. Mccoy won the head-to-head matchup against Bradford. Texas scored 45 points in the win, the most that any team has scored against Oklahoma this season, while scoring a season low 35 points. McCoy was mistake-free, going 28/35 for 277 yards (adding 31 yards on the ground) while Bradford threw two interceptions. 2. Mccoy is the MVP of his team...Bradford isn't. Mccoy completed 78 % (77.6) of his passes while also rushing for 576 yards at 4.5 ypc, which is a good stat line for a back up RB. Mccoy has a much more athleticism and is a more complete player. 3. Mccoy never lost a game. I know what some of you are thinking..Texas Tech. You have to realize though Mccoy came off the field for the last time EVERY game with a lead. All he did in the TT game was drive 80 yards to put his team up and in a position to remain undefeated. He didn't drop the gift wrapped interception throw thrown by Graham, he didn't defend Crabtree and miss two tackles from 6 yards out, and he wasn't on the defense that allowed TT to drive down the field. I think A LOT of you are not giving him enough credit. The kid is the real deal. 1. By that reasoning, then Harrell should win it since he won the head-to-head against McCoy. Also, Bradford did his part, but he wasn't playing on the defense, so its hard to blame him for the 45 points. 2. I'm with GT on this one - are you serious? 3. This is using the same reasoning you used in #1 - you're actually going against your own argument. If Bradford is responsible for the 45 points Oklahoma game up then McCoy is responsible for the last second TD that Tech scored (maybe if McCoy was the real deal he would've melted the clock :lol:) All that being said, I still think Tebow is the best college football player in the land.
December 11, 200817 yr It's not just about numbers. The Heisman is supposed to be given to the best player in the country. That is 100% without a shadow of a doubt Tim Tebow. Dolamite pretty much already explained why Tebow should win it. Numbers aren't everything but Tebow is statictically the worse of all 4 Qb's so why should he get it? Let's not forget Tebow started out the season rough as well the first few games. Bradford and Mccoy have kept their excellence up ALL SEASON. Tim Tebow is a great player but the majority of the reason he's even in the race is because the East coast media talks him up so much. Kirk Herbstreit made a great comment as to why Mccoy should be the Heisman: "Sam Bradford throws to receivers who make plays with their feet and score touchdowns. Colt Mccoy makes plays with his feet and throws for touchdowns." Mccoy is the most deserving of the trio, like it or not.
December 11, 200817 yr Numbers aren't everything but Tebow is statictically the worse of all 4 Qb's so why should he get it? Let's not forget Tebow started out the season rough as well the first few games. Bradford and Mccoy have kept their excellence up ALL SEASON. Tim Tebow is a great player but the majority of the reason he's even in the race is because the East coast media talks him up so much. Kirk Herbstreit made a great comment as to why Mccoy should be the Heisman: "Sam Bradford throws to receivers who make plays with their feet and score touchdowns. Colt Mccoy makes plays with his feet and throws for touchdowns." Mccoy is the most deserving of the trio, like it or not. Then the most deserving guy is going to finish 3rd :lol:
December 11, 200817 yr Numbers aren't everything but Tebow is statictically the worse of all 4 Qb's so why should he get it? Let's not forget Tebow started out the season rough as well the first few games. Bradford and Mccoy have kept their excellence up ALL SEASON. Tim Tebow is a great player but the majority of the reason he's even in the race is because the East coast media talks him up so much. Kirk Herbstreit made a great comment as to why Mccoy should be the Heisman: "Sam Bradford throws to receivers who make plays with their feet and score touchdowns. Colt Mccoy makes plays with his feet and throws for touchdowns." Mccoy is the most deserving of the trio, like it or not. Poor McCoy and all that awful talent he has to work with at TEXAS... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
December 11, 200817 yr To say he isn't the MVP of is team his complete nonsense... IMO the mvp of that team is the whole offensive line. Not only did they protect Bradford for him to pass for the numbers he did, but they also blocked well enough to produce TWO 1,000 yard rushers. You can't tell me having that offensive line isn't a huge reason for Bradford's success GT.
December 11, 200817 yr The one question voters MIGHT have in regards to McCoy and Bradford is the quality of defenses they faced in the Big 12.
December 11, 200817 yr Poor McCoy and all that awful talent he has to work with at TEXAS... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Mccoy no doubt has talent around him or they wouldn't have went 11-1. But coming in to the season, nobody expected them to do as well as they did. (started season ranked I believe #10) Florida was a top 5 team and Oklahoma was pre season #2 or 3 I believe. Mccoy took his team to a whole nother level.
December 11, 200817 yr IMO the mvp of that team is the whole offensive line. Not only did they protect Bradford for him to pass for the numbers he did, but they also blocked well enough to produce TWO 1,000 yard rushers. You can't tell me having that offensive line isn't a huge reason for Bradford's success GT. It helps, but to discredit his performance is a joke. He runs the point in a fast break attack that has never been seen before in college football. Most points ever and still one game left. He's going to get very close to 5,000 passing yards and 50 TDs. Yeah. It's all the line...
December 11, 200817 yr Mccoy no doubt has talent around him or they wouldn't have went 11-1. But coming in to the season, nobody expected them to do as well as they did. (started season ranked I believe #10) Florida was a top 5 team and Oklahoma was pre season #2 or 3 I believe. Mccoy took his team to a whole nother level. Why wasn't it expected? Because McCoy wasn't very good in 2007. No more, no less...
December 11, 200817 yr 1. By that reasoning, then Harrell should win it since he won the head-to-head against McCoy. Also, Bradford did his part, but he wasn't playing on the defense, so its hard to blame him for the 45 points. I wouldn't say throwing 2 INT's is exactly doing his part when both led to Texas touchdowns. :sssh:
December 11, 200817 yr I wouldn't say throwing 2 INT's is exactly doing his part when both led to Texas touchdowns. :sssh: Like the INT that McCoy threw against Texas Tech?
December 11, 200817 yr It helps, but to discredit his performance is a joke. He runs the point in a fast break attack that has never been seen before in college football. Most points ever and still one game left. He's going to get very close to 5,000 passing yards and 50 TDs. Yeah. It's all the line... What he did was impressive and you have to have the vision and accuracy to pass for that many yards, but I'm just pointing out that having an offensive line that kept him clean every game helped out. He didn't have to worry about rolling out of the pocket or running for his life. He could sit back and pick the defense apart. Why wasn't it expected? Because McCoy wasn't very good in 2007. No more, no less... Fair enough.
December 11, 200817 yr McCoy threw for 32 TD's and 16 of those came against FAU, Rice, UTEP, and Baylor. Ouch.
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