If all eleven juniors are clearly better in the coaches mind than the other players not making varsity, yes! If it is close, other factors that have been previously mentioned come into play.

Add that the soph class will disappear also. The only way I would advocate keeping any more than 7 in a class is, that you are dead sure that class will win you a regional title. You are in essence putting all of your eggs in one basket.

 

Exactly.

The keep the best 15 folks aren't considering the future.

It's not as simple as some make it sound.

I personally dont think you should keep that many especially if you have kids in the Senior class that can contribute and help. I think keeping 7/8 of a loaded class sets you up for the following year enough. I dont have a problem with playing the best players though.

 

My problem is when you cut 2-3 seniors who have been with the program for 3/4 yrs and dedicated themselves and then you keep 11 jr's.

 

I respectfully disagree. After that class moves through you have no varsity experience and are starting at ground zero. To be able to reload every year, you must have parity in the top 3 classes.

 

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Top 15 players dress no matter what the class.

 

This works in the pro's, but not in HS basketball. If that was the way to build a program, why worldn't colleges spend all of their scholarships in a single year? You have to build a program. Keeping 11 players makes no sense. You are not going to play all 11, so why have an 11th player sit the bench when you can have a Sophmore get the exact same amount of experience as that 11th Jr. If you have kept 11 Jr's, your not going to cut them their Sr. year, then what do you get after they all graduate, ZERO experience!

And IMO the soph class is the most important one to develop. I know they can play JV but if they can see that they won't see any varsity time at all until they are seniors, that really discourages them from playing.

 

Absolutely, if they do not develop their Soph year, then you let them go their Jr. year.

I think the best way to do it is keep no more than the top 7 from a class unless the other 4 are that much better than any of the seniors or sophomores trying out for the team. It's about winning and building a program that gets the best players excited to come out. By keeping that many from one class you are essentially pushing others away who could be contributors for you in a year or two.

This works in the pro's, but not in HS basketball. If that was the way to build a program, why worldn't colleges spend all of their scholarships in a single year? You have to build a program. Keeping 11 players makes no sense. You are not going to play all 11, so why have an 11th player sit the bench when you can have a Sophmore get the exact same amount of experience as that 11th Jr. If you have kept 11 Jr's, your not going to cut them their Sr. year, then what do you get after they all graduate, ZERO experience!

 

So what do you say to players and parents when you tell them "you were my top 15 but because you have too many in your class you are cut:

 

It is a problem to have that many in one class but I have seen many teams with that many in a class at the state tournament.

 

The origianl post was that the 11 was good players or the better players. It would be different if they were not.

 

Wouldn't this be age discrimination? LOL

This works in the pro's, but not in HS basketball. If that was the way to build a program, why worldn't colleges spend all of their scholarships in a single year? You have to build a program. Keeping 11 players makes no sense. You are not going to play all 11, so why have an 11th player sit the bench when you can have a Sophmore get the exact same amount of experience as that 11th Jr. If you have kept 11 Jr's, your not going to cut them their Sr. year, then what do you get after they all graduate, ZERO experience!

 

This is not college basketball, it is High School. A big difference.

So what do you say to players and parents when you tell them "you were my top 15 but because you have too many in your class you are cut:

 

It is a problem to have that many in one class but I have seen many teams with that many in a class at the state tournament.

 

The origianl post was that the 11 was good players or the better players. It would be different if they were not.

 

Wouldn't this be age discrimination? LOL

 

 

 

I remember a coach saying a senior doesn't make the team if he isn't in the top seven. That makes sense to me.

 

You have to look at the big picture. You could probably field a team entirely of seniors every year, but it wouldn't be smart.

I remember a coach saying a senior doesn't make the team if he isn't in the top seven. That makes sense to me.

 

You have to look at the big picture. You could probably field a team entirely of seniors every year, but it wouldn't be smart.

 

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So what do you say to players and parents when you tell them "you were my top 15 but because you have too many in your class you are cut:

 

It is a problem to have that many in one class but I have seen many teams with that many in a class at the state tournament.

 

The origianl post was that the 11 was good players or the better players. It would be different if they were not.

 

Wouldn't this be age discrimination? LOL

 

Come on???? :creepy: :thumb:

 

I'd rather keep my best Sophomore than my worst Junior on Varsity

Come on???? :creepy: :thumb:

 

I'd rather keep my best Sophomore than my worst Junior on Varsity

 

Even if your worst junior is better than your best sophomore?

 

Strange philosophy to have...

Should a team keep 11 juniors if the majority of the talent at the school is in that class?

 

I can think of 2 schools in NKY in this situation. The one school has maybe 6 that will be contributors at the varsity level. The other 5 will play JV and never start a varsity game in high school. I used to think keeping 10-11 would be good, but you can only put 5 on the floor at a time.

So what do you say to players and parents when you tell them "you were my top 15 but because you have too many in your class you are cut:

 

It is a problem to have that many in one class but I have seen many teams with that many in a class at the state tournament.

 

The origianl post was that the 11 was good players or the better players. It would be different if they were not.

 

Wouldn't this be age discrimination? LOL

 

And what do you tell the parents and administration two years down the road, when there are no seniors in the program, and not one kid with V experince.

Even if your worst junior is better than your best sophomore?

 

Strange philosophy to have...

 

How so? Who has the best long range potential for your team. Your 11th Jr. wont see the floor, so why have him?